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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: statx(2) API and documentation
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:49:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87in1zy9rr.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181018074101.GJ23493@quack2.suse.cz> (Jan Kara's message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:41:01 +0200")

* Jan Kara:

> On Thu 18-10-18 01:15:13, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>> FYI, I identified a similar anti-pattern in fanotify UAPI when I wanted to
>> add new flags and did not want to change the UAPI _ALL_ constants.
>> This is how we plan to solve it:
>> https://github.com/amir73il/linux/commit/8c2b1acadb88ee4505ccc8bfdc665863111fb4cc
>
> Yeah, after fanotify experience I find foo_ALL constants useless if not
> dangerous for userspace.  Kernel internal constants like this are IMO
> useful.

There are also various *_MAX constants which are increased regularly.
Some of them are part of the UAPI headers (INET_DIAG_MAX appears to be
a relevant example), some are no longer in UAPI, but still in custom
glibc headers (AF_MAX/PF_MAX).  These appear to be equally useless.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	"Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: statx(2) API and documentation
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:49:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87in1zy9rr.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181018074101.GJ23493@quack2.suse.cz> (Jan Kara's message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:41:01 +0200")

* Jan Kara:

> On Thu 18-10-18 01:15:13, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>> FYI, I identified a similar anti-pattern in fanotify UAPI when I wanted to
>> add new flags and did not want to change the UAPI _ALL_ constants.
>> This is how we plan to solve it:
>> https://github.com/amir73il/linux/commit/8c2b1acadb88ee4505ccc8bfdc665863111fb4cc
>
> Yeah, after fanotify experience I find foo_ALL constants useless if not
> dangerous for userspace.  Kernel internal constants like this are IMO
> useful.

There are also various *_MAX constants which are increased regularly.
Some of them are part of the UAPI headers (INET_DIAG_MAX appears to be
a relevant example), some are no longer in UAPI, but still in custom
glibc headers (AF_MAX/PF_MAX).  These appear to be equally useless.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-18  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17 18:24 statx(2) API and documentation Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-17 18:45 ` Andreas Dilger
2018-10-17 19:04   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-17 20:22     ` Andreas Dilger
2018-10-17 22:22       ` Florian Weimer
2018-10-18  7:37         ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-18  7:39           ` Florian Weimer
2018-10-18  7:42             ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-18  7:23       ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-17 22:15     ` Amir Goldstein
2018-10-18  7:41       ` Jan Kara
2018-10-18  7:49         ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2018-10-18  7:49           ` Florian Weimer
2018-10-18 16:04 ` David Howells
2018-10-18 16:04   ` David Howells
2018-10-18 20:21   ` Miklos Szeredi

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