From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] s390/kvm: Add a channel I/O based virtio transport driver.
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:40:01 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ipcms59i.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120813105638.66df14a4@BR9GNB5Z>
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:56:38 +0200, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:52:57 +0930
> Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:52:47 +0200, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 1) Please don't limit yourself to 32 feature bits! If you look at how
> > virtio_mmio does it, they use a selector to index into a
> > theoretically-infinite array of feature bits:
>
> It should be easy to extend the data processed by the feature ccws to a
> feature/index combination. Would it be practical to limit the index to
> an 8 bit value?
256 feature bits? That seems like it could one day be limiting. Or an
8 bit accessor into feature words? 8192 seems enough for anyone sane.
> > Note that we're also speculating a move to a new vring format, which
> > will probably be little-endian. But you probably want a completely new
> > ccw code for that anyway.
>
> Do you have a pointer to that discussion handy?
>
> If the host may support different vring formats, I'll probably want to
> add some kind of discovery mechanism for that as well (what discovery
> mechanism depends on whether this would be per-device or per-machine).
It would be per-machine; per-device would be a bit crazy. We'd
deprecate the old ring format.
There's been no consistent thread on the ideas for a ring change,
unfortunately, but you can find interesting parts here, off this thread:
Message-ID: <8762gj6q5r.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver.
Cheers,
Rusty.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] s390/kvm: Add a channel I/O based virtio transport driver.
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:40:01 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ipcms59i.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120813105638.66df14a4@BR9GNB5Z>
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:56:38 +0200, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:52:57 +0930
> Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:52:47 +0200, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 1) Please don't limit yourself to 32 feature bits! If you look at how
> > virtio_mmio does it, they use a selector to index into a
> > theoretically-infinite array of feature bits:
>
> It should be easy to extend the data processed by the feature ccws to a
> feature/index combination. Would it be practical to limit the index to
> an 8 bit value?
256 feature bits? That seems like it could one day be limiting. Or an
8 bit accessor into feature words? 8192 seems enough for anyone sane.
> > Note that we're also speculating a move to a new vring format, which
> > will probably be little-endian. But you probably want a completely new
> > ccw code for that anyway.
>
> Do you have a pointer to that discussion handy?
>
> If the host may support different vring formats, I'll probably want to
> add some kind of discovery mechanism for that as well (what discovery
> mechanism depends on whether this would be per-device or per-machine).
It would be per-machine; per-device would be a bit crazy. We'd
deprecate the old ring format.
There's been no consistent thread on the ideas for a ring change,
unfortunately, but you can find interesting parts here, off this thread:
Message-ID: <8762gj6q5r.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver.
Cheers,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-14 0:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-07 14:52 [RFC PATCH 0/4] s390: virtio-ccw guest kernel support Cornelia Huck
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [PATCH 1/4] s390/kvm: Handle hosts not supporting s390-virtio Cornelia Huck
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-09 10:03 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 10:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 10:41 ` Cornelia Huck
2012-08-09 10:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-10 8:42 ` Heiko Carstens
2012-08-10 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Heiko Carstens
2012-08-10 11:03 ` Cornelia Huck
2012-08-10 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-09 23:09 ` Alexander Graf
2012-08-09 23:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-08-10 7:45 ` Cornelia Huck
2012-08-10 7:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [PATCH 2/4] s390: Add a mechanism to get the subchannel id Cornelia Huck
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-13 17:16 ` Sebastian Ott
2012-08-13 17:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Sebastian Ott
2012-08-14 8:52 ` Sebastian Ott
2012-08-14 8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Sebastian Ott
2012-08-14 10:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2012-08-14 10:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-14 10:53 ` Sebastian Ott
2012-08-14 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Sebastian Ott
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [PATCH 3/4] s390/kvm: Add a channel I/O based virtio transport driver Cornelia Huck
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-08 4:22 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-08 4:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-08-13 8:56 ` Cornelia Huck
2012-08-13 8:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-14 0:10 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2012-08-14 0:10 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14 11:03 ` Cornelia Huck
2012-08-14 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-08-15 3:15 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15 3:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-08-14 19:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14 19:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-08-15 7:28 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-08-15 7:48 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-08-15 7:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2012-08-21 5:35 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-21 5:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [PATCH 4/4] s390/kvm: Split out early console code Cornelia Huck
2012-08-07 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
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