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From: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Shilpasri G Bhat <shilpa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Akshay Adiga <akshay.adiga@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuidle:powernv: Make the snooze timeout dynamic.
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:47:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1rd28t0.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fu22bxlf.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> writes:
> "Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>
>> From: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>
>> The commit 78eaa10f027c ("cpuidle: powernv/pseries: Auto-promotion of
>> snooze to deeper idle state") introduced a timeout for the snooze idle
>> state so that it could be eventually be promoted to a deeper idle
>> state. The snooze timeout value is static and set to the target
>> residency of the next idle state, which would train the cpuidle
>> governor to pick the next idle state eventually.
>>
>> The unfortunate side-effect of this is that if the next idle state(s)
>> is disabled, the CPU will forever remain in snooze, despite the fact
>> that the system is completely idle, and other deeper idle states are
>> available.
>
> That sounds like a bug, I'll add?
>
> Fixes: 78eaa10f027c ("cpuidle: powernv/pseries: Auto-promotion of snooze to deeper idle state")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org # v4.2+

Yes, it's a bug - we had a customer bug because we lacked this that
meant we had to do firmware changes rather than just tweaking what stop
states were used.

-- 
Stewart Smith
OPAL Architect, IBM.

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From: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Shilpasri G Bhat <shilpa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Akshay Adiga <akshay.adiga@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuidle:powernv: Make the snooze timeout dynamic.
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:47:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1rd28t0.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fu22bxlf.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> writes:
> "Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>
>> From: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>
>> The commit 78eaa10f027c ("cpuidle: powernv/pseries: Auto-promotion of
>> snooze to deeper idle state") introduced a timeout for the snooze idle
>> state so that it could be eventually be promoted to a deeper idle
>> state. The snooze timeout value is static and set to the target
>> residency of the next idle state, which would train the cpuidle
>> governor to pick the next idle state eventually.
>>
>> The unfortunate side-effect of this is that if the next idle state(s)
>> is disabled, the CPU will forever remain in snooze, despite the fact
>> that the system is completely idle, and other deeper idle states are
>> available.
>
> That sounds like a bug, I'll add?
>
> Fixes: 78eaa10f027c ("cpuidle: powernv/pseries: Auto-promotion of snooze to deeper idle state")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org # v4.2+

Yes, it's a bug - we had a customer bug because we lacked this that
meant we had to do firmware changes rather than just tweaking what stop
states were used.

-- 
Stewart Smith
OPAL Architect, IBM.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05  3:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-31 12:15 [PATCH] cpuidle:powernv: Make the snooze timeout dynamic Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-05-31 14:51 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-01  4:54   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2018-06-01  4:54     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2018-06-02  0:16     ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-04 11:27 ` Michael Ellerman
2018-06-04 11:27   ` Michael Ellerman
2018-06-05  3:47   ` Stewart Smith [this message]
2018-06-05  3:47     ` Stewart Smith
2018-06-05  8:45   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2018-06-05 12:18     ` Michael Ellerman
2018-06-05 12:18       ` Michael Ellerman
2018-06-05 15:19 ` Michael Ellerman
2018-06-05 15:19   ` Michael Ellerman

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