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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: "Veith, Simon" <sveith@amazon.de>
Cc: "kvmarm@lists.linux.dev" <kvmarm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
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	"yuzenghui@huawei.com" <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	"suzuki.poulose@arm.com" <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	"james.morse@arm.com" <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"oliver.upton@linux.dev" <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	"ricarkol@google.com" <ricarkol@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Rework timer offsetting for fun and profit
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:17:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lekqzmr1.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5404a3554c3a1efd1e8e098072a4cf03d1b01152.camel@amazon.de>

Hi Simon,

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 16:28:36 +0000,
"Veith, Simon" <sveith@amazon.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello Marc,
> 
> On Thu, 2023-02-16 at 14:21 +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > This series aims at satisfying multiple goals:
> > 
> > - allow a VMM to atomically restore a timer offset for a whole VM
> >   instead of updating the offset each time a vcpu get its counter
> >   written
> > 
> > - allow a VMM to save/restore the physical timer context, something
> >   that we cannot do at the moment due to the lack of offsetting
> > 
> > - provide a framework that is suitable for NV support, where we get
> >   both global and per timer, per vcpu offsetting
> 
> Thank you so much for following up on my (admittedly very basic) patch
> with your own proposal!

No worries. There is nothing like "nerd sniping"... ;-)

> > This has been moderately tested with nVHE, VHE and NV. I do not have
> > access to CNTPOFF-aware HW, so the jury is still out on that one
> 
> Same here about CNTPOFF -- I gave it a quick spin on Graviton2 and
> Graviton3, and neither chip claims the ARM64_HAS_ECV_CNTPOFF capability
> from your patch.

Nah, G2/G3 are old stuff (v8.2 and v8.3+ respectively). You need at
least a v8.6 system, something that is made of the best Unobtainium
money can buy. M2 has ECV, but without CNTPOFF, which is just silly.

> I am working on testing your series with our userspace and will report
> back.

Thanks a lot, that'd be super helpful. Please don't get too attached
to the userspace interface though, as it is likely to change (Oliver
has an interesting suggestion to simplify it, but I need to convince
myself that it doesn't break migration of the physical timer).

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: "Veith, Simon" <sveith@amazon.de>
Cc: "kvmarm@lists.linux.dev" <kvmarm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"yuzenghui@huawei.com" <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	"suzuki.poulose@arm.com" <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	"james.morse@arm.com" <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"oliver.upton@linux.dev" <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	"ricarkol@google.com" <ricarkol@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Rework timer offsetting for fun and profit
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:17:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lekqzmr1.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5404a3554c3a1efd1e8e098072a4cf03d1b01152.camel@amazon.de>

Hi Simon,

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 16:28:36 +0000,
"Veith, Simon" <sveith@amazon.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello Marc,
> 
> On Thu, 2023-02-16 at 14:21 +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > This series aims at satisfying multiple goals:
> > 
> > - allow a VMM to atomically restore a timer offset for a whole VM
> >   instead of updating the offset each time a vcpu get its counter
> >   written
> > 
> > - allow a VMM to save/restore the physical timer context, something
> >   that we cannot do at the moment due to the lack of offsetting
> > 
> > - provide a framework that is suitable for NV support, where we get
> >   both global and per timer, per vcpu offsetting
> 
> Thank you so much for following up on my (admittedly very basic) patch
> with your own proposal!

No worries. There is nothing like "nerd sniping"... ;-)

> > This has been moderately tested with nVHE, VHE and NV. I do not have
> > access to CNTPOFF-aware HW, so the jury is still out on that one
> 
> Same here about CNTPOFF -- I gave it a quick spin on Graviton2 and
> Graviton3, and neither chip claims the ARM64_HAS_ECV_CNTPOFF capability
> from your patch.

Nah, G2/G3 are old stuff (v8.2 and v8.3+ respectively). You need at
least a v8.6 system, something that is made of the best Unobtainium
money can buy. M2 has ECV, but without CNTPOFF, which is just silly.

> I am working on testing your series with our userspace and will report
> back.

Thanks a lot, that'd be super helpful. Please don't get too attached
to the userspace interface though, as it is likely to change (Oliver
has an interesting suggestion to simplify it, but I need to convince
myself that it doesn't break migration of the physical timer).

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-16 14:21 [PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Rework timer offsetting for fun and profit Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 01/16] arm64: Add CNTPOFF_EL2 register definition Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 02/16] arm64: Add HAS_ECV_CNTPOFF capability Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-22  4:30   ` Reiji Watanabe
2023-02-22  4:30     ` Reiji Watanabe
2023-02-22 10:47     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-22 10:47       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 03/16] kvm: arm64: Expose {un,}lock_all_vcpus() to the reset of KVM Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23 22:30   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-23 22:30     ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 04/16] KVM: arm64: timers: Use a per-vcpu, per-timer accumulator for fractional ns Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23 22:30   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-23 22:30     ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 05/16] KVM: arm64: timers: Convert per-vcpu virtual offset to a global value Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-22  6:15   ` Reiji Watanabe
2023-02-22  6:15     ` Reiji Watanabe
2023-02-22 10:54     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-22 10:54       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 06/16] KVM: arm64: timers: Use CNTPOFF_EL2 to offset the physical timer Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23 22:34   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-23 22:34     ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-24  8:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-24  8:59       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 07/16] KVM: arm64: timers: Allow physical offset without CNTPOFF_EL2 Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23 22:40   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-23 22:40     ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-24 10:54     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-24 10:54       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 08/16] KVM: arm64: timers: Allow userspace to set the counter offsets Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 22:09   ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-16 22:09     ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-17 10:17     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-17 10:17       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-17 22:11       ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-17 22:11         ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-22 11:56         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-22 11:56           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-22 16:34           ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-22 16:34             ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-23 18:25             ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23 18:25               ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-08  7:46               ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-08  7:46                 ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-08  7:53                 ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-08  7:53                   ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-09  8:29                   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-09  8:29                     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-09  8:25                 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-09  8:25                   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23 22:41   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-23 22:41     ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-24 11:24     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-24 11:24       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 09/16] KVM: arm64: timers: Allow save/restoring of the physical timer Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 10/16] KVM: arm64: timers: Rationalise per-vcpu timer init Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 11/16] KVM: arm64: Document KVM_ARM_SET_CNT_OFFSETS and co Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 12/16] KVM: arm64: nv: timers: Add a per-timer, per-vcpu offset Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-24 20:07   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-24 20:07     ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-25 10:32     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-25 10:32       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 13/16] KVM: arm64: nv: timers: Support hyp timer emulation Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-24 20:08   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-24 20:08     ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-25 10:34     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-25 10:34       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 14/16] KVM: arm64: selftests: Add physical timer registers to the sysreg list Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 15/16] KVM: arm64: selftests: Augment existing timer test to handle variable offsets Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-06 22:08   ` Colton Lewis
2023-03-06 22:08     ` Colton Lewis
2023-03-09  9:01     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-09  9:01       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-10 19:26       ` Colton Lewis
2023-03-10 19:26         ` Colton Lewis
2023-03-12 15:53         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-12 15:53           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-13 11:43         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-13 11:43           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-14 17:47           ` Colton Lewis
2023-03-14 17:47             ` Colton Lewis
2023-03-14 18:18             ` Marc Zyngier
2023-03-14 18:18               ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21 ` [PATCH 16/16] KVM: arm64: selftests: Deal with spurious timer interrupts Marc Zyngier
2023-02-16 14:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Rework timer offsetting for fun and profit Veith, Simon
2023-02-21 16:28   ` Veith, Simon
2023-02-21 22:17   ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2023-02-21 22:17     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23 22:29 ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-23 22:29   ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-24  8:45   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-24  8:45     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-24 20:07 ` Colton Lewis
2023-02-24 20:07   ` Colton Lewis

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