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From: Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe@suse.de>
To: ltp@lists.linux.it
Subject: [LTP] [RFC PATCH] mm: memcg/slab: Stop reparented obj_cgroups from charging root
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 09:45:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfg2ob83.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201016171502.GA102311@blackbook>

Hello,

Michal Koutn? <mkoutny@suse.com> writes:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:53:08AM -0400, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>> The central try_charge() function charges recursively all the way up
>> to and including the root.
> Except for use_hiearchy=0 (which is the case here as Richard
> wrote). The reparenting is hence somewhat incompatible with
> new_parent.use_hiearchy=0 :-/
>

Yes and it also seems

new_parent.use_hierarch=0 -> new_child.use_hierarchy=0

and

new_parent.use_hierarch=0 -> new_child.use_hierarchy=1

are considered valid on cgroupsV1. The kernel will also allow more
descendants on new_child.use_hierarchy=0, but sets
broken_hierarchy=1. However this will not stop the stack trace occuring
(AFAICT) when the reparenting happens between two descendants.

>> We should clean this up one way or another: either charge the root or
>> don't, but do it consistently.
> I agree this'd be good to unify. One upside of excluding root memcg from
> charging is that users are spared from the charging overhead when memcg
> tree is not created.  (Actually, I thought that was the reason for this
> exception.)
>
> Michal


-- 
Thank you,
Richard.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe@suse.de>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	ltp@lists.linux.it, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: memcg/slab: Stop reparented obj_cgroups from charging root
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 09:45:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfg2ob83.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201016171502.GA102311@blackbook>

Hello,

Michal Koutný <mkoutny@suse.com> writes:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:53:08AM -0400, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>> The central try_charge() function charges recursively all the way up
>> to and including the root.
> Except for use_hiearchy=0 (which is the case here as Richard
> wrote). The reparenting is hence somewhat incompatible with
> new_parent.use_hiearchy=0 :-/
>

Yes and it also seems

new_parent.use_hierarch=0 -> new_child.use_hierarchy=0

and

new_parent.use_hierarch=0 -> new_child.use_hierarchy=1

are considered valid on cgroupsV1. The kernel will also allow more
descendants on new_child.use_hierarchy=0, but sets
broken_hierarchy=1. However this will not stop the stack trace occuring
(AFAICT) when the reparenting happens between two descendants.

>> We should clean this up one way or another: either charge the root or
>> don't, but do it consistently.
> I agree this'd be good to unify. One upside of excluding root memcg from
> charging is that users are spared from the charging overhead when memcg
> tree is not created.  (Actually, I thought that was the reason for this
> exception.)
>
> Michal


-- 
Thank you,
Richard.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-19  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-14 19:07 [LTP] [RFC PATCH] mm: memcg/slab: Stop reparented obj_cgroups from charging root Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-14 19:07 ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-14 20:08 ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-14 20:08   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-16  5:40   ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16  5:40     ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16  6:32     ` [LTP] [PATCH v2] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16  9:47 ` [LTP] [RFC PATCH] " Michal =?unknown-8bit?q?Koutn=C3=BD?=
2020-10-16  9:47   ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-16 10:41   ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 10:41     ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 15:05     ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 15:05       ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 17:26       ` [LTP] " Michal =?unknown-8bit?q?Koutn=C3=BD?=
2020-10-16 17:26         ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-16 14:53   ` [LTP] " Johannes Weiner
2020-10-16 14:53     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-16 17:02     ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-16 17:02       ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-16 17:15     ` [LTP] " Michal =?unknown-8bit?q?Koutn=C3=BD?=
2020-10-16 17:15       ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-19  8:45       ` Richard Palethorpe [this message]
2020-10-19  8:45         ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-19  9:58         ` [LTP] [PATCH v3] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-19  9:58           ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-19 16:58           ` [LTP] " Shakeel Butt
2020-10-19 16:58             ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20  5:52             ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20  5:52               ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 13:49               ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 13:49                 ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 16:56                 ` [LTP] " Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20 16:56                   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-21 20:32                   ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-21 20:32                     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 17:24               ` [LTP] " Michal =?unknown-8bit?q?Koutn=C3=BD?=
2020-10-20 17:24                 ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-22  7:04                 ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22  7:04                   ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22 12:28                   ` [LTP] [PATCH v4] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22 12:28                     ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22 16:37                     ` [LTP] " Shakeel Butt
2020-10-22 16:37                       ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-22 17:25                       ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-22 17:25                         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-22 23:59                         ` [LTP] " Shakeel Butt
2020-10-22 23:59                           ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-23  0:40                           ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-23  0:40                             ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-23 15:44                             ` [LTP] " Johannes Weiner
2020-10-23 15:44                               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-23 16:41                             ` [LTP] " Shakeel Butt
2020-10-23 16:41                               ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-26  7:32                             ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-26  7:32                               ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-26 23:14                               ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-26 23:14                                 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-19 22:28       ` [LTP] [RFC PATCH] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-19 22:28         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20  6:04         ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20  6:04           ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 12:02           ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 12:02             ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 14:48         ` [LTP] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 14:48           ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 16:27         ` [LTP] " Michal =?unknown-8bit?q?Koutn=C3=BD?=
2020-10-20 16:27           ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-20 17:07           ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 17:07             ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 18:18             ` [LTP] " Johannes Weiner
2020-10-20 18:18               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-21 19:33               ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-21 19:33                 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-23 16:30                 ` [LTP] " Johannes Weiner
2020-10-23 16:30                   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-10  1:27                   ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-11-10  1:27                     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-10 15:11                     ` [LTP] " Shakeel Butt
2020-11-10 15:11                       ` Shakeel Butt
2020-11-10 19:13                       ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-11-10 19:13                         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-20 17:46                       ` [LTP] " Michal =?unknown-8bit?q?Koutn=C3=BD?=
2020-11-20 17:46                         ` Michal Koutný
2020-11-03 13:22                 ` [LTP] " Michal Hocko
2020-11-03 13:22                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-03 21:30                   ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-11-03 21:30                     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 16:55         ` [LTP] " Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20 16:55           ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20 17:17           ` [LTP] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 17:17             ` Roman Gushchin

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