From: Dmitriy Monakhov <dmonakhov@sw.ru>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Dmitriy Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <devel@openvz.org>,
ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@swsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] EXT3: problem with page fault inside a transaction
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:53:56 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lknmgeaz.fsf@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061011234330.efae4265.akpm@osdl.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:43:30 -0700")
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:57:26 +0400
> Dmitriy Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org> wrote:
>
>> While reading Andrew's generic_file_buffered_write patches i've remembered
>> one more EXT3 issue.journal_start() in prepare_write() causes different ranking
>> violations if copy_from_user() triggers a page fault. It could cause
>> GFP_FS allocation, re-entering into ext3 code possibly with a different
>> superblock and journal, ranking violation of journalling serialization
>> and mmap_sem and page lock and all other kinds of funny consequences.
>
> With the stuff Nick and I are looking at, we won't take pagefaults inside
> prepare_write()/commit_write() any more.
I'sorry may be i've missed something, but how cant you prevent this?
Let's look at generic_file_buffered_write:
#### force page fault
fault_in_pages_readable();
### find and lock page
__grab_cache_page()
#### allocate blocks.This may result in low memory condition
#### try_to_free_pages->shrink_caches() and etc.
a_ops->prepare_write()
### can anyone guarantee that page fault hasn't happened by now ?
### user space buffer swapped out, or became invalid.
filemap_copy_from_user()
>
>> Our customers complain about this issue.
>
> Really? How often?
I have't concrete statistic
>
> What on earth are they doing to trigger this? writev() without the 2.6.18
> writev() bugfix?
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From: Dmitriy Monakhov <dmonakhov@sw.ru>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Dmitriy Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
devel@openvz.org, ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@swsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] EXT3: problem with page fault inside a transaction
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:53:56 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lknmgeaz.fsf@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061011234330.efae4265.akpm@osdl.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:43:30 -0700")
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:57:26 +0400
> Dmitriy Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org> wrote:
>
>> While reading Andrew's generic_file_buffered_write patches i've remembered
>> one more EXT3 issue.journal_start() in prepare_write() causes different ranking
>> violations if copy_from_user() triggers a page fault. It could cause
>> GFP_FS allocation, re-entering into ext3 code possibly with a different
>> superblock and journal, ranking violation of journalling serialization
>> and mmap_sem and page lock and all other kinds of funny consequences.
>
> With the stuff Nick and I are looking at, we won't take pagefaults inside
> prepare_write()/commit_write() any more.
I'sorry may be i've missed something, but how cant you prevent this?
Let's look at generic_file_buffered_write:
#### force page fault
fault_in_pages_readable();
### find and lock page
__grab_cache_page()
#### allocate blocks.This may result in low memory condition
#### try_to_free_pages->shrink_caches() and etc.
a_ops->prepare_write()
### can anyone guarantee that page fault hasn't happened by now ?
### user space buffer swapped out, or became invalid.
filemap_copy_from_user()
>
>> Our customers complain about this issue.
>
> Really? How often?
I have't concrete statistic
>
> What on earth are they doing to trigger this? writev() without the 2.6.18
> writev() bugfix?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-12 8:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-12 5:57 [RFC][PATCH] EXT3: problem with page fault inside a transaction Dmitriy Monakhov
2006-10-12 5:57 ` Dmitriy Monakhov
2006-10-12 6:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-12 6:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-12 7:01 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-12 7:01 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-12 7:53 ` Dmitriy Monakhov [this message]
2006-10-12 7:53 ` Dmitriy Monakhov
2006-10-12 8:31 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-12 8:31 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-12 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-12 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
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