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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Pratik Parvati" <pratikp@vayavyalabs.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: sysbus_create_simple Vs qdev_create
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:46:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mu3iahl9.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <759959d1-f320-734a-ac5e-a60db6b1bc23@redhat.com> (Paolo Bonzini's message of "Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:38:27 +0200")

Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:

> On 28/07/20 09:19, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> the composition tree generally mirrors things that are born and die
>>> at the same time, and creating children is generally reserved to the
>>> object itself.
>>
>> Yes.  Notable exceptions: containers /machine/peripheral,
>> /machine/peripheral-anon, /machine/unattached.
>
> And /objects too.  Apart from /machine/unattached, all these dynamic
> objects are created by the monitor or the command line.
>
>>>                 Children are usually embedded directly in a struct, for
>>> example.
>> 
>> We sometimes use object_new() + object_property_add_child() instead.
>> Extra indirection.  I guess we'd be better off without the extra
>> indirection most of the time.  Implementation detail.
>> 
>> We sometimes use object_new() without object_property_add_child(), and
>> have qdev_realize() put the device in the /machine/unattached orphanage.
>> Meh.  I guess the orphanage feature exists to make conversion to QOM
>> slightly easier.  Could we ban its use for new boards at least?
>
> Banning perhaps is too strong, but yes /machine/unattached is an
> anti-pattern.

A ban backed by an automated test will be effective.  Writing "but don't
do that" on the list not so much.

The automated test could have a list of exceptions.  Adding a new
instance of the anti-pattern then isn't impossible (you can update the
list of exceptions), but clearly visible to patch submitter and
reviewers.

[...]



      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-29  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-14 16:09 sysbus_create_simple Vs qdev_create Pratik Parvati
2020-07-14 16:17 ` Pratik Parvati
2020-07-14 17:02   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-07-15  8:32     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-15 13:58       ` Pratik Parvati
2020-07-15 14:11         ` Peter Maydell
2020-07-15 14:37         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-16 22:21           ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-07-17  5:10             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-17 16:23               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-07-17 16:30                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-17 17:15                   ` Peter Maydell
2020-07-20  7:39                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-20  7:38                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-20 15:59                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-07-21  6:00                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-27 14:29                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-28  7:19                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-28 17:38                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-28 22:47                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-07-29  9:54                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-29 13:18                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-29 16:08                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-30 10:03                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-30 11:09                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-30 12:36                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-30 13:38                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-29 14:32                                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-07-29 16:01                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-29 16:08                                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-07-29 16:14                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-29  7:46                             ` Markus Armbruster [this message]

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