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From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: power-off delay/hang due to commit 6d25be57 (mainline)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 23:39:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mu6aurfn.fsf@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200513220428.4nksinis2qs5dtmh@linutronix.de> (Sebastian Andrzej Siewior's message of "Thu, 14 May 2020 00:04:28 +0200")

On Thu, 14 May 2020 00:04:28 +0200 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:

> On 2020-05-08 23:30:45 [+0200], Stephen Berman wrote:
>> > Can you log the output on the serial console?
>>
>> How do I do that?
>
> The spec for your mainboard says "serial port header". You would need to
> connect a cable there to another computer and log its output.
> The alternative would be to delay the output on the console and use a
> camera.

It's easiest for me to take a picture, since there isn't much output and
in any case the delay happens on it's own ;-).  I'm sending you the
image (from kernel 5.6.4) off-list since even after reducing it it's 1.2
MB large.

>> > If the commit you cited is really the problem then it would mean that a
>> > worker isn't scheduled for some reason. Could you please enable
>> > CONFIG_WQ_WATCHDOG to see if workqueue core code notices that a worker
>> > isn't making progress?

I enabled that and also CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR,
CONFIG_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR and CONFIG_DETECT_HUNG_TASK, which had all
been unset previously.

>> How will I know if that happens, is there a specific message in the tty?
>
> On the tty console where you see the "timing out command, waited"
> message, there should be something starting with
> |BUG: workqueue lockup - pool
>
> following with the pool information that got stuck. That code checks the
> workqueues every 30secs by default. So if you waited >= 60secs then
> system is not detecting a stall.

As you can see in the photo, there was no message about a workqueue
lockup, only "task halt:5320 blocked for more than <XXX> seconds" every
two minutes.  I suppose that comes from one of the other options I
enabled.  Does it reveal anything about the problem?

> As far as I can tell, there is nothing special on your system. The CD
> and disk drives are served by the AHCI controller. There is no special
> SCSI/SATA/SAS controller.
> Right now I have no idea how the workqueues fit in the picture. Could
> you please check if the stall-dector says something?

Is that the message I repeated above or do you mean the workqueue?

> Is it possible to show me output when the timeout message comes? My
> guess is that the system is going down and before unounting/remount RO
> the filesystem it flushes its last data. But this is done before issuing
> the "halt-syscall".

The entire output from `shutdown -h now' is in the picture; after the
fourth "timing out command" message, I pressed the reset button.

Steve Berman

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-14 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-01 15:46 power-off delay/hang due to commit 6d25be57 (mainline) Stephen Berman
2020-05-06 21:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-05-08 21:30   ` Stephen Berman
2020-05-13 22:04     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-05-14 21:39       ` Stephen Berman [this message]
2020-05-22 16:40         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-09 10:06           ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-09 20:23             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-10  8:21               ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-10 10:25                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-10 22:49                   ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-11 15:39                     ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-12 11:01                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-14 12:12                         ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-14 17:10                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-15  7:58                             ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-15 14:51                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-15 15:41                                 ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-15 15:58                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-15 16:19                                     ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-15 16:32                                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-16  7:14                                 ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-16  7:38                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-16  8:13                                     ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-16 15:55                                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-16 20:28                                         ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-17 14:27                                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-17 21:09                                             ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-24 20:11                                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-06-24 21:49                                                 ` Stephen Berman
2020-07-14 13:44                                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-14 13:54                                                     ` [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-14 13:54                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-14 14:11                                                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-14 15:53                                                         ` [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-14 15:53                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-14 16:10                                                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-08-11 10:27                                                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-19 10:07                                                         ` Stephen Berman
2020-08-11 11:58                                                           ` Stephen Berman
2020-08-11 13:29                                                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-08-11 14:34                                                               ` [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-08-11 14:34                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-08-11 15:25                                                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-08-11 17:22                                                                   ` Stephen Berman
2020-08-11 18:49                                                                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-06 21:49                                                                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-07 16:18                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-26 17:20                                                                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-12-02 18:03                                                                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-12-02 18:31                                                           ` [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-12-02 18:31                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-12-02 19:13                                                             ` [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-12-02 19:13                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-12-31 20:46                                                               ` [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-12-31 20:46                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-04 15:38                                                                 ` Stephen Berman
2021-01-24 13:49                                                                   ` Stephen Berman
2020-06-20 19:08               ` [PATCH] SCSI: Disable CD-ROM poll on shutdown kernel test robot
2020-06-20 19:08                 ` kernel test robot
2020-06-09 21:26             ` power-off delay/hang due to commit 6d25be57 (mainline) Stephen Berman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-11 14:02 [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-08-11 14:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-02 11:03 [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-02 11:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-25 16:25 [Devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-25 16:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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