From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 review 09/11] quota: Handle quota data stored in s_user_ns.
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 12:51:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87poqqbqp6.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160706082545.GC14067@quack2.suse.cz> (Jan Kara's message of "Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:25:45 +0200")
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:
> On Wed 06-07-16 16:35:04, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> All the more reason you should be adding the same guard to all the
>> other filesystems....
>>
>> All i'm asking you to do is to make this check in a way that all
>> filesystems that implement quotas will execute it. Don't leave
>> landmines with security implications around - make sure all
>> filesystems have the same protections.
That is exactly what I am doing. Ensuring people don't think the
generic quota file code has been closely audited and reviewed and deemed
safe against malicious users.
> Well, I'm not sure I follow you here. VFS quotas are a generic code used by
> a few filesystems. So I can imagine that someone would decide to enable
> FS_USERNS_MOUNT for one of those filesystems without thinking about quotas
> and then Eric's check would trigger and possibly save use from some
> problems.
>
> When someone decides to enable FS_USERNS_MOUNT for XFS, he will have
> presumably made sure all parts of XFS are safe, including its quota
> implementation.
>
> I don't want to stop you or Eric in adding an extra check in XFS, I just
> have hard time to see how that check would trigger and how XFS quota is
> different from other XFS parts...
Exactly.
While it is true that the quota file code has not been deemed safe for
attack by malicious users on any filesystem. It only matters if the
entire filesystem has been deemed safe by setting FS_USERNS_MOUNT. So
the only possible avenue of confusion I can see is with the default
quota file code in dquot.c and company which I am addressing.
The fully generic parts of quota in quota.c that every one uses will
handle all of the weird s_user_ns != &init_user_ns cases at the end
of this patchset so there is nothing to worry about there either.
So I don't see additional checks worth adding anywhere. Dave if you want
to send me an XFS patch or point out where such a check would belong in
XFS I won't be opposed to carrying it in my tree along with the rest of
this change. I probably will be puzzled about what makes that code
need an extra check but I won't be opposed to carring such a patch.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-06 17:51 UTC|newest]
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2016-07-02 17:18 [PATCH review 0/11] General unprivileged mount support Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 01/11] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 03/11] vfs: Verify acls are valid within superblock's s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20160702172035.19568-1-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 02/11] userns: Handle -1 in k[ug]id_has_mapping when !CONFIG_USER_NS Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 03/11] vfs: Verify acls are valid within superblock's s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 04/11] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 05/11] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 06/11] vfs: Don't modify inodes with a uid or gid unknown to the vfs Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 07/11] vfs: Don't create " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 08/11] quota: Ensure qids map to the filesystem Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 09/11] quota: Handle quota data stored in s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20160702172035.19568-9-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-02 17:33 ` [PATCH v2 " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87mvm03pxy.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-04 9:11 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-04 9:11 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-05 14:48 ` Seth Forshee
[not found] ` <20160704091100.GD5200-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 14:48 ` Seth Forshee
2016-07-05 15:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-05 15:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87d1msumhy.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 20:57 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-05 20:57 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-05 20:57 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-05 21:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-05 21:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-05 21:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <8737nnrcyy.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 6:35 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-06 6:35 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-06 8:25 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-06 8:25 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-06 17:51 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
[not found] ` <20160706082545.GC14067-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 17:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-04 9:11 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-02 17:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 10/11] evm: Translate user/group ids relative to s_user_ns when computing HMAC Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 11/11] fs: Update i_[ug]id_(read|write) to translate relative to s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 05/11] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 07/11] vfs: Don't create inodes with a uid or gid unknown to the vfs Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20160702172035.19568-7-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-04 7:59 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-04 7:59 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160704075919.GA5200-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 14:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-05 14:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zipwxhgp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 9:07 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-06 9:07 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160706090705.GE14067-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 15:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 15:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 15:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-04 7:59 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 08/11] quota: Ensure qids map to the filesystem Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 10/11] evm: Translate user/group ids relative to s_user_ns when computing HMAC Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87ziq03qnj.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 01/11] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-04 8:52 ` [PATCH review 0/11] General unprivileged mount support Jan Kara
2016-07-06 13:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-06 13:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-06 13:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrVof174gPCZnD2Z-RMjR-P=NcA0mYCU9ki6=o9hpFL-BA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 15:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 15:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 14:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-06 14:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-06 14:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-06 15:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 15:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:10 ` [PATCH review 0/12] General unprivileged mount support v2 Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <874m82bptc.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 01/12] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 02/12] userns: Handle -1 in k[ug]id_has_mapping when !CONFIG_USER_NS Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 03/12] vfs: Verify acls are valid within superblock's s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 04/12] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20160706181212.16267-1-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 02/12] userns: Handle -1 in k[ug]id_has_mapping when !CONFIG_USER_NS Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 03/12] vfs: Verify acls are valid within superblock's s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 04/12] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 05/12] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 06/12] vfs: Don't modify inodes with a uid or gid unknown to the vfs Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 07/12] vfs: Don't create " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 08/12] quota: Ensure qids map to the filesystem Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 09/12] quota: Handle quota data stored in s_user_ns in quota_setxquota Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 10/12] dquot: For now explicitly don't support filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20160706181212.16267-10-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 10:09 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-11 10:09 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 11/12] evm: Translate user/group ids relative to s_user_ns when computing HMAC Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 12/12] fs: Update i_[ug]id_(read|write) to translate relative to s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 05/12] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 08/12] quota: Ensure qids map to the filesystem Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20160706181212.16267-8-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 10:14 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-11 10:14 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160711101424.GH12410-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-11 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-11 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <878tx8dowu.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 1:34 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-13 1:34 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-13 3:45 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-13 3:45 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-13 5:43 ` Jann Horn
2016-07-13 5:43 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <20160713054358.GB28635-J1fxOzX/cBvk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 17:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-14 17:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 09/12] quota: Handle quota data stored in s_user_ns in quota_setxquota Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 12/12] fs: Update i_[ug]id_(read|write) to translate relative to s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-04 8:52 ` [PATCH review 0/11] General unprivileged mount support Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160704085220.GC5200-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-04 16:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-04 16:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-04 16:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87h9c52wsd.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 8:54 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-06 8:54 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160706085440.GD14067-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 13:54 ` Seth Forshee
2016-07-06 13:54 ` Seth Forshee
2016-07-06 14:22 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-06 14:22 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-06 14:46 ` Seth Forshee
[not found] ` <20160706142255.GB21164-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 14:46 ` Seth Forshee
2016-07-06 15:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 15:23 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-06 15:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 15:23 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1467818630.2369.21.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 16:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 16:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 14:22 ` Jan Kara
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