From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux on Hyper-V List <linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Clint Sbisa <csbisa@amazon.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Sunil Muthuswamy <sunilmut@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] arm64: PCI: Allow use arch-specific pci sysdata
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:23:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg4qgdrd.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a1OGZsGmwGTHaVWBjpr_G4aDvO1mfUGU3o8XyLLgHqXpw@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:03:13 +0000,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:54 PM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 21:12:46 +0000,
>
> > >
> > > Ugh. pci_root_bus_fwnode() is another callback to find the
> > > irq_domain. Only one call, from pci_host_bridge_msi_domain(), which
> > > itself is only called from pci_set_bus_msi_domain(). This feels like
> > > another case where we could simplify things by having the host bridge
> > > driver figure out the irq_domain explicitly when it creates the
> > > pci_host_bridge. It seems like that's where we have the most
> > > information about how to find the irq_domain.
> >
> > Urgh. This is a perfect copy paste of the x86 horror, warts and all.
> > I can't say I'm thrilled (another way to say "Gawd, Noes! Never!").
> >
> > One thing I am sure of is that I do not want to add more custom
> > indirection to build the MSI topology. We barely got rid of the
> > msi_controller structure, and this is the same thing by another
> > name. Probably worse, actually.
> >
> > In this case, I don't see the point in going via a fwnode indirection
> > given that there is no firmware tables the first place.
> >
> > As for finding the irq domain from the host bridge, that's not doable
> > in most cases on arm64, as it is pretty likely that the host bridge
> > knows nothing about MSIs when they are implemented in the GIC (see my
> > recent msi_controller removal series that has a few patches about
> > that).
> >
> > Having an optional callback to host bridges to obtain the MSI domain
> > may be possible in some cases though (there might be a chicken/egg
> > problem for some drivers though...).
>
> I would expect that the host bridge driver can find the MSI domain
> at probe time and just add a pointer into the pci_host_bridge
> structure.
In most cases, it doesn't implement it itself, and I'd be reluctant to
duplicate information that can already be retrieved from somewhere
else in a generic way (i.e. no PCI specific).
M.
--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux on Hyper-V List <linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Clint Sbisa <csbisa@amazon.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Sunil Muthuswamy <sunilmut@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] arm64: PCI: Allow use arch-specific pci sysdata
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:23:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg4qgdrd.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a1OGZsGmwGTHaVWBjpr_G4aDvO1mfUGU3o8XyLLgHqXpw@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:03:13 +0000,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:54 PM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 21:12:46 +0000,
>
> > >
> > > Ugh. pci_root_bus_fwnode() is another callback to find the
> > > irq_domain. Only one call, from pci_host_bridge_msi_domain(), which
> > > itself is only called from pci_set_bus_msi_domain(). This feels like
> > > another case where we could simplify things by having the host bridge
> > > driver figure out the irq_domain explicitly when it creates the
> > > pci_host_bridge. It seems like that's where we have the most
> > > information about how to find the irq_domain.
> >
> > Urgh. This is a perfect copy paste of the x86 horror, warts and all.
> > I can't say I'm thrilled (another way to say "Gawd, Noes! Never!").
> >
> > One thing I am sure of is that I do not want to add more custom
> > indirection to build the MSI topology. We barely got rid of the
> > msi_controller structure, and this is the same thing by another
> > name. Probably worse, actually.
> >
> > In this case, I don't see the point in going via a fwnode indirection
> > given that there is no firmware tables the first place.
> >
> > As for finding the irq domain from the host bridge, that's not doable
> > in most cases on arm64, as it is pretty likely that the host bridge
> > knows nothing about MSIs when they are implemented in the GIC (see my
> > recent msi_controller removal series that has a few patches about
> > that).
> >
> > Having an optional callback to host bridges to obtain the MSI domain
> > may be possible in some cases though (there might be a chicken/egg
> > problem for some drivers though...).
>
> I would expect that the host bridge driver can find the MSI domain
> at probe time and just add a pointer into the pci_host_bridge
> structure.
In most cases, it doesn't implement it itself, and I'd be reluctant to
duplicate information that can already be retrieved from somewhere
else in a generic way (i.e. no PCI specific).
M.
--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-20 13:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-19 16:19 [RFC 0/2] PCI: Introduce pci_ops::use_arch_sysdata Boqun Feng
2021-03-19 16:19 ` Boqun Feng
2021-03-19 16:19 ` [RFC 1/2] arm64: PCI: Allow use arch-specific pci sysdata Boqun Feng
2021-03-19 16:19 ` Boqun Feng
2021-03-19 21:12 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-19 21:12 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-20 12:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-20 12:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-20 13:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 13:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 13:23 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-03-20 13:23 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-20 14:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 14:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 17:14 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-20 17:14 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-20 12:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 12:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 16:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 16:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-29 14:32 ` Boqun Feng
2021-03-29 14:32 ` Boqun Feng
2021-03-29 14:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-29 14:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 12:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 12:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-19 16:19 ` [RFC 2/2] PCI: hv: Tell PCI core arch-specific sysdata is used Boqun Feng
2021-03-19 16:19 ` Boqun Feng
2021-03-19 19:04 ` [RFC 0/2] PCI: Introduce pci_ops::use_arch_sysdata Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-19 19:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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