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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Partha Basak <p-basak2@ti.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:04:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sk0gtn0a.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1010081220150.27105-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (Alan Stern's message of "Fri, 8 Oct 2010 12:22:38 -0400 (EDT)")

Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:

> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>
>> > Do you need "normal" resume to work after "atomic" suspend, or is it
>> > sufficient that "atomic" suspend will require "atomic" resume?
>> 
>> hmm... while I'm definitely needing an "atomic" resume after a "normal"
>> suspend, for now I can't think of a case where a "normal" resume would
>> be needed after an "atomic" suspend.  All the cases where I'm currently
>> using an atomic suspend also have a corresponding atomic resume.
>> 
>> As I write this, it wouldn't surprise me down the road to find some HW
>> errata that requires the device in a specific state only before idle,
>> but not caring about the state after idle.  That would be a case where
>> an atomic suspend would be needed, but the resume would be "normal"
>> sometime later when the device is next needed.
>
> Put it this way: Are you okay with just the following two 
> possibilities?
>
> 	(1) Both suspends and resumes always have interrupts enabled.
>
> 	(2) Both suspends and resumes always have interrupts disabled.
>
> In other words, is it okay to rule out the ability of mixing "atomic" 
> and "normal" runtime PM operations?

Yes, I think that's a reasonable limitation.

If a driver/subsystem needs to handle an occasional "atomic" runtime PM
operation, it's callbacks will have to be atomic as well, so I don't see
any reason it can't be made to use only atomic operations.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-08 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-24  0:05 runtime_pm_get_sync() from ISR with IRQs disabled? Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 15:13 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-09-24 18:54   ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 18:54   ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 20:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-24 20:04     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 13:57       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-27 13:57       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-09-27 20:00         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 20:39           ` Alan Stern
2010-09-27 20:39           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-09-27 21:09             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 21:09             ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-28 14:55               ` Alan Stern
2010-09-28 18:19                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 18:25                   ` [PATCH] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers Alan Stern
2010-09-30 20:15                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 20:15                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 21:42                       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-30 22:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 22:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 14:28                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 14:28                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 21:23                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-02 14:12                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-02 22:06                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-03 15:52                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-03 20:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-03 20:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-03 15:52                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 23:24                                   ` PATCH: PM / Runtime: Remove idle notification after failing suspend (was: Re: [PATCH] PM: add synchronous ...) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-08 23:24                                   ` PATCH: PM / Runtime: Remove idle notification after failing suspend (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-10 20:18                                     ` PATCH: PM / Runtime: Remove idle notification after failing suspend (was: " Alan Stern
2010-10-10 20:18                                     ` PATCH: PM / Runtime: Remove idle notification after failing suspend (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-02 22:06                                 ` [PATCH] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-05 21:44                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 15:58                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 19:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 19:35                                     ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 20:28                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 21:47                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 15:26                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 15:26                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 16:52                                             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 17:35                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 17:35                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 21:11                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 21:11                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 23:15                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 23:15                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 23:37                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 23:55                                                       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-08 16:22                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 16:22                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 21:04                                                           ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2010-10-08 21:04                                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-08 19:57                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-08 19:57                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 23:55                                                       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 23:37                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-08 16:18                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 16:18                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 19:53                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 11:09                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 11:09                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 17:00                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 22:30                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 22:30                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 17:00                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 19:53                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 16:52                                             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-19 15:45                                           ` [PATCH ver. 2] " Alan Stern
2011-04-11 15:47                                             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-04-11 16:08                                               ` Alan Stern
2011-04-11 17:20                                                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-04-11 18:37                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-11-19 15:45                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-11-20 12:56                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-20 16:59                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-11-20 19:41                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-11-21 23:45                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-21 23:45                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-20 19:41                                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-11-21 23:41                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-21 23:41                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-22 15:38                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-11-22 23:01                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-22 23:01                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-23  3:19                                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-11-23 22:51                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-23 22:51                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-24  0:11                                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-24 16:43                                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-11-24 16:43                                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-11-24 18:03                                                               ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-24 18:03                                                               ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-24  0:11                                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-24 14:56                                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-11-24 20:33                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-24 20:33                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-25 15:52                                                               ` [PATCH ver. 3] " Alan Stern
2010-11-25 15:52                                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-11-25 18:58                                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-11-25 18:58                                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2010-11-25 20:03                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-25 20:03                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-26 22:23                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-26 22:23                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-24 14:56                                                           ` [PATCH ver. 2] " Alan Stern
2010-11-23  3:19                                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-11-22 15:38                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-11-20 16:59                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-11-20 12:56                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 21:47                                         ` [PATCH] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 23:51                                         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 23:51                                         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 20:28                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:35                                     ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 15:58                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-05 21:44                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-02 14:12                               ` Alan Stern
2010-09-30 21:42                       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-30 21:42                       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-30 22:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 14:12                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 14:12                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 21:14                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 21:14                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 22:37                           ` [PATCH] PM / Runtime: Reduce code duplication in core helper functions (was: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH] PM: add synchronous ...) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-02 14:15                             ` [PATCH] PM / Runtime: Reduce code duplication in core helper functions (was: " Alan Stern
2010-10-02 14:15                             ` [PATCH] PM / Runtime: Reduce code duplication in core helper functions (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-01 22:37                           ` [PATCH] PM / Runtime: Reduce code duplication in core helper functions (was: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 18:25                   ` [PATCH] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers Alan Stern
2010-09-28 18:19                 ` runtime_pm_get_sync() from ISR with IRQs disabled? Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-28 14:55               ` Alan Stern
2010-09-27 21:11             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-27 21:11             ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman
2010-09-27 20:00         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-24 20:27     ` Alan Stern
2010-09-24 20:27     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-09-24 21:52       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 21:52       ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 15:13 ` Alan Stern

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