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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: guangrong.xiao@gmail.com
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, quintela@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	wei.w.wang@intel.com, cota@braap.org, mst@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] optimize waiting for free thread to do compression
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 10:53:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvif5xln.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190111063732.10484-1-xiaoguangrong@tencent.com> (guangrong xiao's message of "Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:37:29 +0800")

guangrong.xiao@gmail.com writes:

> From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
>
> Changelog in v2:
> squash 'compress-wait-thread-adaptive' into 'compress-wait-thread' based
> on peter's suggestion
>
>
> Currently we have two behaviors if all threads are busy to do compression,
> the main thread mush wait one of them becoming free if @compress-wait-thread
> set to on or the main thread can directly return without wait and post
> the page out as normal one
>
> Both of them have its profits and short-comes, however, if the bandwidth is
> not limited extremely so that compression can not use out all of it bandwidth,
> at the same time, the migration process is easily throttled if we posted too
> may pages as normal pages. None of them can work properly under this case
>
> In order to use the bandwidth more effectively, we introduce the third
> behavior, adaptive, which make the main thread wait
> if there is no bandwidth left or let the page go out as normal page if there
> has enough bandwidth to make sure the migration process will not be
> throttled
>
> Another patch introduces a new statistic, pages-per-second, as bandwidth
> or mbps is not enough to measure the performance of posting pages out as
> we have compression, xbzrle, which can significantly reduce the amount of
> the data size, instead, pages-per-second is the one we want
>
> Performance data
> ================
> We have limited the bandwidth to 300
>
>                                 Used Bandwidth     Pages-per-Second
> compress-wait-thread = on         951.66 mbps         131784
>
> compress-wait-thread = off        2491.74 mbps        93495
> compress-wait-thread-adaptive     1982.94 mbps        162529
>    = on

I think you mean compress-wait-thread = adaptive here.

Can you sketch use cases for all three settings?  The resulting guidance
should then be worked into documentation.

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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: guangrong.xiao@gmail.com
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, quintela@redhat.com,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	wei.w.wang@intel.com, cota@braap.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] optimize waiting for free thread to do compression
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 10:53:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvif5xln.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190111063732.10484-1-xiaoguangrong@tencent.com> (guangrong xiao's message of "Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:37:29 +0800")

guangrong.xiao@gmail.com writes:

> From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
>
> Changelog in v2:
> squash 'compress-wait-thread-adaptive' into 'compress-wait-thread' based
> on peter's suggestion
>
>
> Currently we have two behaviors if all threads are busy to do compression,
> the main thread mush wait one of them becoming free if @compress-wait-thread
> set to on or the main thread can directly return without wait and post
> the page out as normal one
>
> Both of them have its profits and short-comes, however, if the bandwidth is
> not limited extremely so that compression can not use out all of it bandwidth,
> at the same time, the migration process is easily throttled if we posted too
> may pages as normal pages. None of them can work properly under this case
>
> In order to use the bandwidth more effectively, we introduce the third
> behavior, adaptive, which make the main thread wait
> if there is no bandwidth left or let the page go out as normal page if there
> has enough bandwidth to make sure the migration process will not be
> throttled
>
> Another patch introduces a new statistic, pages-per-second, as bandwidth
> or mbps is not enough to measure the performance of posting pages out as
> we have compression, xbzrle, which can significantly reduce the amount of
> the data size, instead, pages-per-second is the one we want
>
> Performance data
> ================
> We have limited the bandwidth to 300
>
>                                 Used Bandwidth     Pages-per-Second
> compress-wait-thread = on         951.66 mbps         131784
>
> compress-wait-thread = off        2491.74 mbps        93495
> compress-wait-thread-adaptive     1982.94 mbps        162529
>    = on

I think you mean compress-wait-thread = adaptive here.

Can you sketch use cases for all three settings?  The resulting guidance
should then be worked into documentation.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-11  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-11  6:37 [PATCH v2 0/3] optimize waiting for free thread to do compression guangrong.xiao
2019-01-11  6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao
2019-01-11  6:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] migration: introduce pages-per-second guangrong.xiao
2019-01-11  6:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao
2019-01-11 15:37   ` Eric Blake
2019-01-11 15:37     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2019-01-23 12:51     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-23 12:51       ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-23 12:34   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-23 12:34     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-11  6:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] migration: fix memory leak when updating tls-creds and tls-hostname guangrong.xiao
2019-01-11  6:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao
2019-01-15  7:51   ` Peter Xu
2019-01-15  7:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2019-01-15 10:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-15 10:24       ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-15 16:03       ` Eric Blake
2019-01-15 16:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2019-01-16  5:55         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-16  5:55           ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2019-02-18  8:26         ` Xiao Guangrong
2019-02-18  8:26           ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong
2019-01-11  6:37 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] migration: introduce adaptive model for waiting thread guangrong.xiao
2019-01-11  6:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao
2019-01-11  9:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-01-11  9:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18  8:47     ` Xiao Guangrong
2019-02-18  8:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong
2019-01-16  6:40   ` Peter Xu
2019-01-16  6:40     ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2019-02-18  9:01     ` Xiao Guangrong
2019-02-18  9:01       ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong
2019-01-11  9:53 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2019-01-11  9:53   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] optimize waiting for free thread to do compression Markus Armbruster
2019-01-13 14:43 ` no-reply
2019-01-13 14:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " no-reply
2019-01-13 17:41 ` no-reply
2019-01-13 17:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " no-reply

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