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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Akihiko Odaki" <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Dmitry Fleytman" <dmitry.fleytman@gmail.com>,
	"Sriram Yagnaraman" <sriram.yagnaraman@ericsson.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Luigi Rizzo" <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>,
	"Giuseppe Lettieri" <g.lettieri@iet.unipi.it>,
	"Vincenzo Maffione" <v.maffione@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Melnychenko" <andrew@daynix.com>,
	"Yuri Benditovich" <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
	"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>, "Lei Yang" <leiyang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] qdev-properties: Accept bool for OnOffAuto
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2025 10:43:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7tns90o.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z4D_zK-QIN07EXR5@redhat.com> ("Daniel P. Berrangé"'s message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:09:00 +0000")

Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 03:17:51PM +0900, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
>> Accept bool literals for OnOffAuto properties for consistency with bool
>> properties. This enables users to set the "on" or "off" value in a
>> uniform syntax without knowing whether the "auto" value is accepted.
>> This behavior is especially useful when converting an existing bool
>> property to OnOffAuto or vice versa.
>
> Again, to repeat my previous feedback, OnOffAuto is a well defined
> QAPI type - making it secretly accept other values/types behind
> the scenes which are not visible in QAPI scheme is not acceptable.
>
> Effectively this is a backdoor impl of a QAPI alternate
>
>   { 'alternate': 'OnOffAutoOrBool',
>     'data': {
>       'o': 'OnOffAuto',
>       'b': 'bool'
>     }
>   }
>
> except this isn't permitted as the QAPI generator explicitly blocks
> use of alternate when the two branches are 'bool' and 'enum'.
>
> I'm assuming this is because in the QemuOpts scenario, it cannot
> guess upfront whether the input is a bool or enum. This is unfortunate
> though, because at the JSON visitor level it is unambiguous. 
>
> I wonder if the QAPI generator could be relaxed in any viable way ?

Discussed in review of a related prior patch:
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/87h6c4fqz6.fsf@pond.sub.org/

Here's the relevant part for your convenience:

    >> parse the value as enum, and if that fails, as uint32_t.  QAPI already
    >> provides a way to express "either this type or that type": alternate.
    >> Like this:
    >> 
    >>      { 'alternate': 'OnOffAutoUint32',
    >>        'data': { 'sym': 'OnOffAuto',
    >>                  'uint': 'uint32' } }
    >> 
    >> Unfortunately, such alternates don't work on the command line due to
    >> keyval visitor restrictions.  These cannot be lifted entirely, but we
    >> might be able to lift them sufficiently to make this alternate work.
    >
    > The keyval visitor cannot implement alternates because the command line 
    > input does not have type information. For example, you cannot 
    > distinguish string "0" and integer 0.

    Correct.

    For alternate types, an input visitor picks the branch based on the
    QType.

    With JSON, we have scalar types null, number, string, and bool.

    With keyval, we only have string.  Alternates with more than one scalar
    branch don't work.

    They could be made to work to some degree, though.  Observe:

    * Any value can be a string.

    * "frob" can be nothing else.

    * "on" and "off" can also be bool.

    * "123" and "1e3" can also be number or enum.

    Instead of picking the branch based on the QType, we could pick based on
    QType and value, where the value part is delegated to a visitor method.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-06  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-08  6:17 [PATCH v4 0/4] virtio: Convert feature properties to OnOffAuto Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-08  6:17 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] qapi: Do not consume a value if failed Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-08  6:17 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] qdev-properties: Accept bool for OnOffAuto Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-10 11:09   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-01-10 11:31     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-10 12:16       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-01-10 12:32         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-02-06  9:43     ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2025-02-05 15:29   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-02-06  6:01     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-02-06  9:48       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-02-06 10:16         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-02-06 13:23           ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-02-07  5:59             ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-02-07 12:31               ` Markus Armbruster
2025-02-07 12:46                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-05-05  6:42                   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-02-07 12:15             ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-06 15:37           ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-06 16:25             ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-05-08  7:09             ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-08  6:17 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] qdev-properties: Add DEFINE_PROP_ON_OFF_AUTO_BIT64() Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-08  6:17 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] virtio: Convert feature properties to OnOffAuto Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-09 10:06   ` Lei Yang
2025-01-09 10:56   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-01-09 11:08     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-09 11:13       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-01-10 11:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-01-10 11:39     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-01-09 12:53 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] " Markus Armbruster
2025-01-10  4:42   ` Akihiko Odaki

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