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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andrey Ryabinin <a.ryabinin@samsung.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kasan, module, vmalloc: rework shadow allocation for modules
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:56:12 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbithw4b.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E6E684.4070806@samsung.com>

Andrey Ryabinin <a.ryabinin@samsung.com> writes:
> On 02/20/2015 03:15 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> Andrey Ryabinin <a.ryabinin@samsung.com> writes:
>>> On 02/19/2015 02:10 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>>> This is not portable.  Other archs don't use vmalloc, or don't use
>>>> (or define) MODULES_VADDR.  If you really want to hook here, you'd
>>>> need a new flag (or maybe use PAGE_KERNEL_EXEC after an audit).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, instead of explicit (addr >= MODULES_VADDR && addr < MODULES_END)
>>> I could hide this into arch-specific function: 'kasan_need_to_allocate_shadow(const void *addr)'
>>> or make make all those functions weak and allow arch code to redefine them.
>> 
>> That adds another layer of indirection.  And how would the caller of
>> plain vmalloc() even know what to return?
>> 
>
> I think I don't understand what do you mean here. vmalloc() callers shouldn't know
> anything about kasan/shadow.

How else would kasan_need_to_allocate_shadow(const void *addr) work for
architectures which don't have a reserved vmalloc region for modules?

>> Hmm, how about a hybrid:
>> 
>> 1) Add kasan_module_alloc(p, size) after module alloc as your original.
>> 2) Hook into vfree(), and ignore it if you can't find the map.
>> 
>
> That should work, but it looks messy IMO.
>
>> Or is the latter too expensive?
>> 
>
> Not sure whether this will be too expensive or not,
> but definitely more expensive than simple (addr >= MODULES_VADDR && addr < MODULES_END) check.

Sure, if that check were portable.  If you ever wanted kasan on other
vmalloc addresses it wouldn't work either.

I actually think this pattern is the *simplest* solution for auxilliary
data like kasan.

Cheers,
Rusty.

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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andrey Ryabinin <a.ryabinin@samsung.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kasan, module, vmalloc: rework shadow allocation for modules
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:56:12 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbithw4b.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E6E684.4070806@samsung.com>

Andrey Ryabinin <a.ryabinin@samsung.com> writes:
> On 02/20/2015 03:15 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> Andrey Ryabinin <a.ryabinin@samsung.com> writes:
>>> On 02/19/2015 02:10 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>>> This is not portable.  Other archs don't use vmalloc, or don't use
>>>> (or define) MODULES_VADDR.  If you really want to hook here, you'd
>>>> need a new flag (or maybe use PAGE_KERNEL_EXEC after an audit).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, instead of explicit (addr >= MODULES_VADDR && addr < MODULES_END)
>>> I could hide this into arch-specific function: 'kasan_need_to_allocate_shadow(const void *addr)'
>>> or make make all those functions weak and allow arch code to redefine them.
>> 
>> That adds another layer of indirection.  And how would the caller of
>> plain vmalloc() even know what to return?
>> 
>
> I think I don't understand what do you mean here. vmalloc() callers shouldn't know
> anything about kasan/shadow.

How else would kasan_need_to_allocate_shadow(const void *addr) work for
architectures which don't have a reserved vmalloc region for modules?

>> Hmm, how about a hybrid:
>> 
>> 1) Add kasan_module_alloc(p, size) after module alloc as your original.
>> 2) Hook into vfree(), and ignore it if you can't find the map.
>> 
>
> That should work, but it looks messy IMO.
>
>> Or is the latter too expensive?
>> 
>
> Not sure whether this will be too expensive or not,
> but definitely more expensive than simple (addr >= MODULES_VADDR && addr < MODULES_END) check.

Sure, if that check were portable.  If you ever wanted kasan on other
vmalloc addresses it wouldn't work either.

I actually think this pattern is the *simplest* solution for auxilliary
data like kasan.

Cheers,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-18 17:44 [PATCH] kasan, module, vmalloc: rework shadow allocation for modules Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-18 17:44 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-18 23:10 ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-18 23:10   ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-19 13:21   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-19 13:21     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-20  0:15     ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-20  0:15       ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-20  7:47       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-20  7:47         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-23  8:26         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2015-02-23  8:26           ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-24 12:58           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-24 12:58             ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-25  6:25             ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-25  6:25               ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-25  7:56               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-25  7:56                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-26  1:30                 ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-26  1:30                   ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-27 12:20                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-02-27 12:20                     ` Andrey Ryabinin

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