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From: Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>
To: Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dedekind1@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/16] mtd/docg3: add OOB layout to mtdinfo
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:18:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcqoiavr.fsf@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EBECB89.2020102@newsguy.com> (Mike Dunn's message of "Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:39:53 -0800")

Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com> writes:

> On 11/10/2011 12:05 AM, Robert Jarzmik wrote:
>> +static struct nand_ecclayout docg3_oobinfo = {
>> +	.eccbytes = 8,
>> +	.eccpos = {7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14},
>> +	.oobfree = {{0, 7}, {15, 1} },
>> +	.oobavail = 8,
>> +};
>> +

I took a different approach.  I check an internal docg3 register to see if the
page was written. Or I could had have checked the Hamming code, as I don't think
it can be 0xff whatever the pagesize 7 bytes values.

The reason behind is that the Hamming code is Ham(64, 57), ie. Ham(2^6,
2^6-6-1). The means the 6 bits are enough to cover all codewords possibilities,
and 0xff is not one of them.

So unless a bitflip in Hamming code, 0xff in it means blank page. And I think
the ECC engine is even smarter, with the ECCCONF1_PAGE_IS_WRITTEN.

>
> Just FYI, per Ivan's suggestion, I changed this to use the last oob byte as a
> "page programmed" flag for the purpose of detecting bit flips when reading a
> blank page.  Maybe something to keep in mind.  You can have a look at the latest
> G4 driver patch to see exactly how I use it.
I personally think this should be provided by the MTD API. A function
is_page_blank(ofs) could tell if the page was written or not. Now if the
function is NULL, the upper layer (UBIFS, ...) could decide _by itself_ to
assign a free OOB byte to that meaning. But IMHO it's not the drivers duty to
take these decisions to restrict the OOB, let it be done at an upper level.

Cheers.

-- 
Robert

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From: Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>
To: Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com>
Cc: dwmw2@infradead.org, dedekind1@gmail.com,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/16] mtd/docg3: add OOB layout to mtdinfo
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:18:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcqoiavr.fsf@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EBECB89.2020102@newsguy.com> (Mike Dunn's message of "Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:39:53 -0800")

Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com> writes:

> On 11/10/2011 12:05 AM, Robert Jarzmik wrote:
>> +static struct nand_ecclayout docg3_oobinfo = {
>> +	.eccbytes = 8,
>> +	.eccpos = {7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14},
>> +	.oobfree = {{0, 7}, {15, 1} },
>> +	.oobavail = 8,
>> +};
>> +

I took a different approach.  I check an internal docg3 register to see if the
page was written. Or I could had have checked the Hamming code, as I don't think
it can be 0xff whatever the pagesize 7 bytes values.

The reason behind is that the Hamming code is Ham(64, 57), ie. Ham(2^6,
2^6-6-1). The means the 6 bits are enough to cover all codewords possibilities,
and 0xff is not one of them.

So unless a bitflip in Hamming code, 0xff in it means blank page. And I think
the ECC engine is even smarter, with the ECCCONF1_PAGE_IS_WRITTEN.

>
> Just FYI, per Ivan's suggestion, I changed this to use the last oob byte as a
> "page programmed" flag for the purpose of detecting bit flips when reading a
> blank page.  Maybe something to keep in mind.  You can have a look at the latest
> G4 driver patch to see exactly how I use it.
I personally think this should be provided by the MTD API. A function
is_page_blank(ofs) could tell if the page was written or not. Now if the
function is NULL, the upper layer (UBIFS, ...) could decide _by itself_ to
assign a free OOB byte to that meaning. But IMHO it's not the drivers duty to
take these decisions to restrict the OOB, let it be done at an upper level.

Cheers.

-- 
Robert

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-13 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-10  8:05 [PATCH v2 00/16] DocG3 fixes and write support Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] mtd/docg3: fix debug log verbosity Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] mtd/docg3: fix tracing of IO in writeb Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] mtd/docg3: fix protection areas reading Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] mtd/docg3: fix BCH registers Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-12 19:40   ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-12 19:40     ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-13 10:20     ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-13 10:20       ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] mtd/docg3: fix reading oob+data without correction Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] mtd/docg3: add multiple floor support Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] mtd/docg3: add OOB layout to mtdinfo Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-12 19:39   ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-12 19:39     ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-13 10:18     ` Robert Jarzmik [this message]
2011-11-13 10:18       ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-13 12:53       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-13 12:53         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-13 13:03         ` David Woodhouse
2011-11-13 13:03           ` David Woodhouse
2011-11-13 13:35           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-13 13:35             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-13 16:38             ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-13 16:38               ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-13 19:55               ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-13 19:55                 ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-13 20:27                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-13 20:27                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-14 18:08                   ` Proposed change to mtd read functions (Was Re: [PATCH v2 07/16] mtd/docg3: add OOB layout to mtdinfo) Mike Dunn
2011-11-14 18:08                     ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-14 17:38                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-14 17:38                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-14  0:58       ` [PATCH v2 07/16] mtd/docg3: add OOB layout to mtdinfo Mike Dunn
2011-11-14  0:58         ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] mtd/docg3: add registers for erasing and writing Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] mtd/docg3: add OOB buffer to device structure Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] mtd/docg3: add write functions Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] mtd/docg3: add erase functions Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] mtd/docg3: map erase and write functions Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] mtd/docg3: add ECC correction code Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-12 19:49   ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-12 19:49     ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-13 10:35     ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-13 10:35       ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-14  2:13       ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-14  2:13         ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] mtd/docg3: add suspend and resume Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] mtd/docg3: add fast mode Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] mtd/docg3: add protection areas sysfs access Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-10  8:05   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-12 20:02 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] DocG3 fixes and write support Mike Dunn
2011-11-12 20:02   ` Mike Dunn
2011-11-13 10:41   ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-11-13 10:41     ` Robert Jarzmik

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