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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
To: "Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>
Cc: Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>,
	Maynard Johnson <maynardj@us.ibm.com>,
	"Shilimkar, Santosh" <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>,
	Jon Hunter <jon-hunter@ti.com>,
	"oprofile-list@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<oprofile-list@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Lik Lik <lik88888@gmail.com>,
	"eranian@gmail.com" <eranian@gmail.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: oprofile and ARM A9 hardware counter
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 09:18:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wr4mr6io.fsf@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA927B1.4020108@ti.com> (Benoit Cousson's message of "Tue, 8 May 2012 16:03:29 +0200")

"Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com> writes:

> On 5/8/2012 4:00 PM, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>> Jean Pihet<jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>  writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>> Yes, indeed, we should not hack the flags to fix that kind of issue. The
>>>>>> flags describe what the HW is capable of, and the EMU CD can support
>>>>>> HW_AUTO
>>>>>> and SW_WAKEUP. AFAIK, the issue with that EMU CD is that the only valid
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> power state is OFF, meaning that no retention mode is supported. So any
>>>>>> transition to idle will go to OFF and lead to a reset upon wakeup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, being able to transition to OFF during idle is a
>>>>>> perfectly
>>>>>> valid state for most powerdomain in OMAP anyway, so we should be able to
>>>>>> restore from OFF mode smoothly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks to me that what is missing here is *just* a restore path in the
>>>>>> PMU/CTI code. But I'm probably missing some nasty details in this issue
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Although it is perfectly feasible to have a seamless transition of the
>>>>> EMU power domain, I think the PMU counters will not be accurate
>>>>> anymore since they stop counting events when going to OFF and re-start
>>>>> after the state restore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point, but I think the PMU might still works fine because located
>>>> inside the MPU domain. AFAIR, only the path to access the PMU and the CTI is
>>>> going to OFF and thus will be reset.
>>>
>>> Ever better point ;p Thanks for the precision.
>>> In any case my point was: can we allow the EMU CD to go OFF or prevent
>>> it from doing so? We need to answer that question first.
>>>
>>
>> The idea I've suggested is to use runtime PM for this.  As long as the
>> PMU is in use, it will be runtime PM enabled (and not allowed to go into
>> HWSUP idle.)  When it is not used, it will be allowed to HWSUP idle, and
>> then be reset.  The next time it is needed, the runtime resume will need
>> to do a full re-init.
>
> Oh, but does that mean that this driver is not pm_runtime adapted yet?
>

Actually, it is.  Ming Lei has done it.

Currently, Will has collected this[1] and is waiting (patiently) for us
to produce a real fix that doesn't kill PM in the process.

Kevin

[1] git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/will/linux.git perf/omap4




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From: khilman@ti.com (Kevin Hilman)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: oprofile and ARM A9 hardware counter
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 09:18:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wr4mr6io.fsf@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA927B1.4020108@ti.com> (Benoit Cousson's message of "Tue, 8 May 2012 16:03:29 +0200")

"Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com> writes:

> On 5/8/2012 4:00 PM, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>> Jean Pihet<jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>  writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>> Yes, indeed, we should not hack the flags to fix that kind of issue. The
>>>>>> flags describe what the HW is capable of, and the EMU CD can support
>>>>>> HW_AUTO
>>>>>> and SW_WAKEUP. AFAIK, the issue with that EMU CD is that the only valid
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> power state is OFF, meaning that no retention mode is supported. So any
>>>>>> transition to idle will go to OFF and lead to a reset upon wakeup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, being able to transition to OFF during idle is a
>>>>>> perfectly
>>>>>> valid state for most powerdomain in OMAP anyway, so we should be able to
>>>>>> restore from OFF mode smoothly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks to me that what is missing here is *just* a restore path in the
>>>>>> PMU/CTI code. But I'm probably missing some nasty details in this issue
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Although it is perfectly feasible to have a seamless transition of the
>>>>> EMU power domain, I think the PMU counters will not be accurate
>>>>> anymore since they stop counting events when going to OFF and re-start
>>>>> after the state restore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point, but I think the PMU might still works fine because located
>>>> inside the MPU domain. AFAIR, only the path to access the PMU and the CTI is
>>>> going to OFF and thus will be reset.
>>>
>>> Ever better point ;p Thanks for the precision.
>>> In any case my point was: can we allow the EMU CD to go OFF or prevent
>>> it from doing so? We need to answer that question first.
>>>
>>
>> The idea I've suggested is to use runtime PM for this.  As long as the
>> PMU is in use, it will be runtime PM enabled (and not allowed to go into
>> HWSUP idle.)  When it is not used, it will be allowed to HWSUP idle, and
>> then be reset.  The next time it is needed, the runtime resume will need
>> to do a full re-init.
>
> Oh, but does that mean that this driver is not pm_runtime adapted yet?
>

Actually, it is.  Ming Lei has done it.

Currently, Will has collected this[1] and is waiting (patiently) for us
to produce a real fix that doesn't kill PM in the process.

Kevin

[1] git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/will/linux.git perf/omap4

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-08 16:17 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] <CAAO=S0+L2Q1YZC-pfm2Lz8jPooTeHYOMaZbtRgHYFoL_m7rvhA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <4F0B182D.7060507@us.ibm.com>
2012-01-09 22:49   ` oprofile and ARM A9 hardware counter Will Deacon
2012-01-09 22:49     ` Will Deacon
2012-01-09 23:30     ` Ming Lei
2012-01-09 23:30       ` Ming Lei
2012-01-10  0:46       ` stephane eranian
2012-01-10  0:46         ` stephane eranian
2012-01-18  4:18         ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18  4:18           ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18  9:33           ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18  9:33             ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18 11:39             ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-01-18 11:39               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-01-18 12:24               ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18 12:24                 ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18 12:33                 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-01-18 12:33                   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03  9:25                   ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03  9:25                     ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03  9:42                     ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03  9:42                       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03  9:47                       ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03  9:47                         ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03 10:01                         ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03 10:01                           ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03 12:34                           ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03 12:34                             ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03 12:41                             ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03 12:41                               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03 14:27                             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-03 14:27                               ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-03 16:07                               ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03 16:07                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03 23:14                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-03 23:14                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-03 23:29                                   ` Paul Walmsley
2012-04-03 23:29                                     ` Paul Walmsley
2012-04-04  3:42                                     ` Ming Lei
2012-04-04  3:42                                       ` Ming Lei
2012-04-04 11:15                                     ` Will Deacon
2012-04-04 11:15                                       ` Will Deacon
2012-04-26 18:07                                       ` Will Deacon
2012-04-26 18:07                                         ` Will Deacon
2012-04-30 22:25                                         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-30 22:25                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 17:27                                           ` Ming Lei
2012-05-07 17:27                                             ` Ming Lei
2012-05-04 22:17                                         ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-04 22:17                                           ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-07 17:15                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 17:15                                             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 19:53                                             ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-07 19:53                                               ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-07 23:28                                               ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:28                                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 11:01                                                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-08 11:01                                                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-08 11:23                                                   ` Jean Pihet
2012-05-08 11:23                                                     ` Jean Pihet
2012-05-08 12:37                                                     ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-08 12:37                                                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-08 13:18                                                       ` Jean Pihet
2012-05-08 13:18                                                         ` Jean Pihet
2012-05-08 14:00                                                         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 14:00                                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 14:03                                                           ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-08 14:03                                                             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-08 16:18                                                             ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2012-05-08 16:18                                                               ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 19:51                                                               ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-08 19:51                                                                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-08 21:28                                                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 21:28                                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 22:20                                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-08 22:20                                                                     ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-08 22:12                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2012-05-08 22:12                                                                   ` Ming Lei
2012-05-08 17:31                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-08 17:31                                                     ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-08 21:22                                                     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 21:22                                                       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 23:59                                                       ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-08 23:59                                                         ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-09 10:58                                                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-09 10:58                                                         ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-05-09 18:04                                                         ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-09 18:04                                                           ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-09 19:28                                                           ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-09 19:28                                                             ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-09 21:45                                                             ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-09 21:45                                                               ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-10  8:44                                                               ` Will Deacon
2012-05-10  8:44                                                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-05-10  9:12                                                                 ` stephane eranian
2012-05-10  9:12                                                                   ` stephane eranian
2012-05-10 18:55                                                                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-10 18:55                                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 12:25                                                                   ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 12:25                                                                     ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 13:47                                                                     ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 13:47                                                                       ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 13:49                                                                       ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 13:49                                                                         ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 14:52                                                                         ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 14:52                                                                           ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 15:02                                                                           ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 15:02                                                                             ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 16:31                                                                             ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 16:31                                                                               ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 16:38                                                                               ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 16:38                                                                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11 23:51                                                                                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-11 23:51                                                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-15 13:52                                                                                   ` Will Deacon
2012-05-15 13:52                                                                                     ` Will Deacon
2012-05-10 14:12                                                               ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-10 14:12                                                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-10 19:05                                                                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-10 19:05                                                                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-05-10  6:59                                                         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-05-10  6:59                                                           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-05-08 21:50                                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-05-08 21:50                                                   ` Paul Walmsley
2012-04-04  0:00                             ` Paul Walmsley
2012-04-04  0:00                               ` Paul Walmsley
2012-04-04 11:07                               ` Will Deacon
2012-04-04 11:07                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-01-18  9:54           ` stephane eranian
2012-01-18  9:54             ` stephane eranian
2012-01-18 10:07             ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18 10:07               ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18 21:58               ` stephane eranian
2012-01-18 21:58                 ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19  1:21                 ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19  1:21                   ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 11:34                   ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 11:34                     ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 12:45                     ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 12:45                       ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 12:51                       ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 12:51                         ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 12:55                         ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 12:55                           ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 13:14                         ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 13:14                           ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 13:26                           ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 13:26                             ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 13:32                             ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 13:32                               ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 13:51                               ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 13:51                                 ` Ming Lei
2012-01-19 17:07                                 ` stephane eranian
2012-01-19 17:07                                   ` stephane eranian
2012-01-20 13:47                                   ` stephane eranian
2012-01-20 13:47                                     ` stephane eranian
2012-01-21  3:25                                     ` Ming Lei
2012-01-21  3:25                                       ` Ming Lei
2012-01-21  9:16                                       ` stephane eranian
2012-01-21  9:16                                         ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 12:13                                         ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 12:13                                           ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 12:45                                           ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 12:45                                             ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 12:56                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-27 12:56                                             ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-27 13:28                                             ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 13:28                                               ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 13:32                                               ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 13:32                                                 ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 13:47                                               ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-27 13:47                                                 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-27 13:56                                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 13:56                                                   ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 14:05                                                   ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-27 14:05                                                     ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-27 14:09                                               ` Ming Lei
2012-01-27 14:09                                                 ` Ming Lei
2012-01-27 15:45                                                 ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 15:45                                                   ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 15:54                                                   ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 15:54                                                     ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 15:57                                                     ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 15:57                                                       ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 16:59                                                       ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 16:59                                                         ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 17:03                                                         ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 17:03                                                           ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 17:10                                                           ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 17:10                                                             ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 17:16                                                             ` stephane eranian
2012-01-27 17:16                                                               ` stephane eranian
2012-01-29 17:36                                                               ` stephane eranian
2012-01-29 17:36                                                                 ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30  9:40                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2012-01-30  9:40                                                                   ` Ming Lei
2012-01-30 10:24                                                                   ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 10:24                                                                     ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 13:43                                                                     ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 13:43                                                                       ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 14:49                                                                       ` Ming Lei
2012-01-30 14:49                                                                         ` Ming Lei
2012-01-30 16:02                                                                         ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 16:02                                                                           ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 16:08                                                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-30 16:08                                                                             ` Måns Rullgård
2012-01-30 17:15                                                                             ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 17:15                                                                               ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 17:24                                                                               ` Will Deacon
2012-01-30 17:24                                                                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-01-30 17:45                                                                                 ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 17:45                                                                                   ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 19:14                                                                                   ` Will Deacon
2012-01-30 19:14                                                                                     ` Will Deacon
2012-01-30 20:45                                                                                     ` stephane eranian
2012-01-30 20:45                                                                                       ` stephane eranian
2012-03-07  2:49                                                     ` Ming Lei
2012-03-07  2:49                                                       ` Ming Lei
2012-03-07  9:48                                                       ` Will Deacon
2012-03-07  9:48                                                         ` Will Deacon
2012-01-27 14:06                                           ` Ming Lei
2012-01-27 14:06                                             ` Ming Lei
2012-01-18 10:18             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-18 10:18               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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     [not found] ` <CAMQu2gwfo5JXAqQaLUNs7C7J3TUhEO2zOcyD0Rk-D_O61Yrfag@mail.gmail.com>
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2012-02-07 10:53         ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-02-07 11:09           ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-02-07 11:25             ` stephane eranian
2012-02-07 11:39               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-02-07 11:59                 ` stephane eranian
2012-02-07 15:30                   ` Will Deacon
2012-02-08  2:24                   ` Ming Lei
2012-02-08  2:24                     ` Ming Lei
2012-02-15 16:38                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 16:38                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 10:25                       ` Ming Lei
2012-02-16 10:25                         ` Ming Lei
2012-02-16 15:00                         ` Will Deacon
2012-02-16 15:00                           ` Will Deacon
2012-02-16 16:12                           ` Ming Lei
2012-02-16 16:12                             ` Ming Lei
2012-02-16 16:19                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 16:19                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 16:37                               ` Ming Lei
2012-02-16 16:37                                 ` Ming Lei
2012-02-16 18:08                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-02-16 18:08                                   ` Will Deacon
2012-02-17  5:24                                   ` Ming Lei
2012-02-17  5:24                                     ` Ming Lei
2012-02-17 10:26                                     ` Will Deacon
2012-02-17 10:26                                       ` Will Deacon
2012-02-20  3:19                                       ` Ming Lei
2012-02-20  3:19                                         ` Ming Lei
2012-02-20  9:44                                         ` Will Deacon
2012-02-20  9:44                                           ` Will Deacon
2012-02-13 13:15                   ` Will Deacon
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2012-02-18  4:31             ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-04-03  9:44               ` Will Deacon
2012-04-03  9:47                 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
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2012-02-09 20:05     ` David A. Long

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