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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Remove 32-bit Xen PV guest support
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 09:34:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y30zfe9z.fsf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190715113739.17694-1-jgross@suse.com> (Juergen Gross's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:37:37 +0200")

Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> writes:

> The long term plan has been to replace Xen PV guests by PVH. The first
> victim of that plan are now 32-bit PV guests, as those are used only
> rather seldom these days. Xen on x86 requires 64-bit support and with
> Grub2 now supporting PVH officially since version 2.04 there is no
> need to keep 32-bit PV guest support alive in the Linux kernel.
> Additionally Meltdown mitigation is not available in the kernel running
> as 32-bit PV guest, so dropping this mode makes sense from security
> point of view, too.

Normally we have a deprecation period for feature removals like this.
You would make the kernel print a warning for some releases, and when
no user complains you can then remove. If a user complains you can't.

-Andi

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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Remove 32-bit Xen PV guest support
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 09:34:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y30zfe9z.fsf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190715113739.17694-1-jgross@suse.com> (Juergen Gross's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:37:37 +0200")

Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> writes:

> The long term plan has been to replace Xen PV guests by PVH. The first
> victim of that plan are now 32-bit PV guests, as those are used only
> rather seldom these days. Xen on x86 requires 64-bit support and with
> Grub2 now supporting PVH officially since version 2.04 there is no
> need to keep 32-bit PV guest support alive in the Linux kernel.
> Additionally Meltdown mitigation is not available in the kernel running
> as 32-bit PV guest, so dropping this mode makes sense from security
> point of view, too.

Normally we have a deprecation period for feature removals like this.
You would make the kernel print a warning for some releases, and when
no user complains you can then remove. If a user complains you can't.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-15 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-15 11:37 [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Remove 32-bit Xen PV guest support Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 11:37 ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 11:37 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 1/2] x86/xen: remove " Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 11:37   ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 15:44   ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2019-07-15 15:44     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-07-16  3:52     ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-16  3:52       ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 11:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/paravirt: remove 32-bit support from PARAVIRT_XXL Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 11:37 ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 11:37   ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 12:32 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Remove 32-bit Xen PV guest support Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-15 12:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-15 12:36   ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 12:36   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 12:36     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-15 16:34 ` Andi Kleen
2019-07-15 16:34 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2019-07-15 16:34   ` Andi Kleen
2019-07-15 17:28   ` [Xen-devel] " Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-15 17:28     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-15 17:39     ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2019-07-15 17:39       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-16  3:55       ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-16  3:55       ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-16  3:55         ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 17:39     ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-15 17:42     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 17:42       ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-15 17:42     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-16  6:58     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-07-16  6:58       ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-16  6:58       ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-15 17:28   ` Andy Lutomirski

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