From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Could we avoid touching dst->refcount in some cases ?
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:42:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y6z9h33h.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492A6C94.7030308@cosmosbay.com> (Eric Dumazet's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:57:56 +0100")
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> writes:
> tbench has hard time incrementing decrementing the route cache refcount
> shared by all communications on localhost.
iirc there was a patch some time ago to use per CPU loopback devices to
avoid this, but it was considered too much a benchmark hack.
As core counts increase it might stop being that though.
>
> On real world, we also have this problem on RTP servers sending many UDP
> frames to mediagateways, especially big ones handling thousand of streams.
>
> Given that route entries are using RCU, we probably can avoid incrementing
> their refcount in case of connected sockets ?
Normally they can be hold over sleeps or queuing of skbs too, and RCU
doesn't handle that. To make it handle that you would need to define a
custom RCU period designed for this case, but this would be probably
tricky and fragile: especially I'm not sure even if you had a "any
packet queued" RCU method it be guaranteed to always finish
because there is no fixed upper livetime of a packet.
The other issue is that on preemptible kernels you would need to
disable preemption all the time such a routing entry is hold, which
could be potentially quite long.
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-24 9:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-24 8:57 [RFC] Could we avoid touching dst->refcount in some cases ? Eric Dumazet
2008-11-24 9:42 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-11-24 10:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-24 11:24 ` [PATCH] net: avoid a pair of dst_hold()/dst_release() in ip_append_data() Eric Dumazet
2008-11-24 13:59 ` [PATCH] net: avoid a pair of dst_hold()/dst_release() in ip_push_pending_frames() Eric Dumazet
2008-11-25 0:07 ` David Miller
2008-11-24 23:55 ` [PATCH] net: avoid a pair of dst_hold()/dst_release() in ip_append_data() David Miller
2008-11-25 2:22 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-24 11:27 ` [RFC] Could we avoid touching dst->refcount in some cases ? Andi Kleen
2008-11-24 23:36 ` David Miller
2008-11-24 23:39 ` David Miller
2008-11-25 4:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-25 5:00 ` David Miller
2008-11-26 0:00 ` [PATCH] net: release skb->dst in sock_queue_rcv_skb() Eric Dumazet
2008-11-26 0:23 ` David Miller
2008-11-26 2:04 ` David Miller
2008-11-26 7:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-11-26 9:08 ` David Miller
2008-12-17 11:25 ` net-next: broken IP_PKTINFO [was Re: [PATCH] net: release skb->dst in sock_queue_rcv_skb()] Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-18 3:34 ` net-next: broken IP_PKTINFO David Miller
2008-12-18 5:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-18 6:17 ` David Miller
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