From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Sebastian Ott <sebott@redhat.com>
Cc: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Make the exposed feature bits in AA64DFR0_EL1 writable from userspace
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 19:29:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zfllssji.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d3a7dde-e085-fa70-8859-ba153c93b615@redhat.com>
On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:00:35 +0000,
Sebastian Ott <sebott@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2024, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 15:28:35 +0100,
> >> Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> KVM exposes the OS double lock feature bit to Guests but returns
> >>> RAZ/WI on Guest OSDLR_EL1 access. This breaks Guest migration between
> >>> systems where this feature support differ. Add support to make this
> >>> feature writable from userspace by setting the mask bit. While at it,
> >>> set the mask bits for other exposed features in the AA64DFR0_EL1
> >>> register as well.
> >>>
> >>> Also update the selftest to cover these fields.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Shameer Kolothum
> >> <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
> >>> ---
> >>> This is based on the discussion here(Thanks to Oliver),
> >>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZrVSlbVwnaMDShah@linux.dev/
> >>> ---
> >>> arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c | 6 +++++-
> >>> tools/testing/selftests/kvm/aarch64/set_id_regs.c | 4 ++++
> >>> 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c
> >>> index c90324060436..adb49d681052 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c
> >>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c
> >>> @@ -2376,7 +2376,11 @@ static const struct sys_reg_desc sys_reg_descs[]
> >> = {
> >>> .get_user = get_id_reg,
> >>> .set_user = set_id_aa64dfr0_el1,
> >>> .reset = read_sanitised_id_aa64dfr0_el1,
> >>> - .val = ID_AA64DFR0_EL1_PMUVer_MASK |
> >>> + .val = ID_AA64DFR0_EL1_DoubleLock_MASK |
> >>> + ID_AA64DFR0_EL1_CTX_CMPs_MASK |
> >>> + ID_AA64DFR0_EL1_WRPs_MASK |
> >>> + ID_AA64DFR0_EL1_BRPs_MASK |
> >>
> >>
> >> I think this is going to cause some troubles.
> >>
> >> The issue is that context-aware breakpoints are the highest-numbered
> >> breakpoints, right after the normal breakpoints (D2.8.3 "Breakpoint
> >> types and linking of breakpoints"). So if you reduce the number of
> >> normal breakpoints, you shift the context-aware ones down, and
> >> everything breaks.
> >
> > Thanks Marc for explaining this. I was not aware of this one.
> >
> >> I really don't see how you can safely do that without completely
> >> changing the way we handle the debug registers.
> >
> > Looks like Reji has attempted to do this a while back,
> > https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220419065544.3616948-13-reijiw@google.com/
> >
>
> I've got two machines that differ in the number of breakpoints and
> it would be nice to be able to migrate between these. Is anything
Is that the *only* thing that differ? Do the have the same number of
context-aware breakpoints?
> preventing us from trapping the access and make sure the correct
> breakpoint is used? Is anyone working on this? If not I'd like to
> give it a shot.
Not only trapping. You also need to handle some interesting parts of
the architecture, such as the breakpoint linking fun.
But if we are to go down that road, I really want to restrict that to
implementations that have FEAT_FGT. Because otherwise we need to trap
and emulate *everything*, instead of just the breakpoint registers.
And that would be pretty bad from a performance perspective.
Another thing is that this only works because there is no report of
the breakpoint number in ESR_ELx. The moment we offering this
migration "feature", we are painting ourselves in a corner, should the
architecture ever evolve to something less... bizarre.
Finally, who is going to ensure this keeps working in the foreseeable
future? Because while this is nice, that's not what gets deployed in
production, as it leads to unpredictable performances. My take is that
this thing will eventually bitrot and die.
So, do we *really* want to go down that road?
M.
--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-26 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-13 14:28 [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Make the exposed feature bits in AA64DFR0_EL1 writable from userspace Shameer Kolothum
2024-08-13 18:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-14 9:17 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-15 8:32 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-11-26 17:00 ` Sebastian Ott
2024-11-26 19:29 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2024-11-27 17:53 ` Sebastian Ott
2024-11-28 9:31 ` Eric Auger
2024-12-01 12:21 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-12-02 8:03 ` Eric Auger
2024-12-02 9:11 ` Marc Zyngier
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