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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Abdul Haleem <abdhalee@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 15:50:09 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zi6we9z2.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171130065835.dbw4ajh5q5whikhf@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:

> On Wed 29-11-17 14:25:36, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > The first patch introduced MAP_FIXED_SAFE which enforces the given
>> > address but unlike MAP_FIXED it fails with ENOMEM if the given range
>> > conflicts with an existing one. The flag is introduced as a completely
>> 
>> I still think this name should be better. "SAFE" doesn't say what it's
>> safe from...

Yes exactly.

> It is safe in a sense it doesn't perform any address space dangerous
> operations. mmap is _inherently_ about the address space so the context
> should be kind of clear.

So now you have to define what "dangerous" means.

>> MAP_FIXED_UNIQUE
>> MAP_FIXED_ONCE
>> MAP_FIXED_FRESH
>
> Well, I can open a poll for the best name, but none of those you are
> proposing sound much better to me. Yeah, naming sucks...

I think Kees and I both previously suggested MAP_NO_CLOBBER for the
modifier.

So the obvious option for this would be MAP_FIXED_NO_CLOBBER.

Which is a bit longer sure, but says more or less exactly what it does.

cheers

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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Abdul Haleem <abdhalee@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 15:50:09 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zi6we9z2.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
Message-ID: <20171206045009.Lv54yh5k3dmKBJwC4V_HqknMiS89ZOedNTBGGU9M-ug@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171130065835.dbw4ajh5q5whikhf@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:

> On Wed 29-11-17 14:25:36, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > The first patch introduced MAP_FIXED_SAFE which enforces the given
>> > address but unlike MAP_FIXED it fails with ENOMEM if the given range
>> > conflicts with an existing one. The flag is introduced as a completely
>> 
>> I still think this name should be better. "SAFE" doesn't say what it's
>> safe from...

Yes exactly.

> It is safe in a sense it doesn't perform any address space dangerous
> operations. mmap is _inherently_ about the address space so the context
> should be kind of clear.

So now you have to define what "dangerous" means.

>> MAP_FIXED_UNIQUE
>> MAP_FIXED_ONCE
>> MAP_FIXED_FRESH
>
> Well, I can open a poll for the best name, but none of those you are
> proposing sound much better to me. Yeah, naming sucks...

I think Kees and I both previously suggested MAP_NO_CLOBBER for the
modifier.

So the obvious option for this would be MAP_FIXED_NO_CLOBBER.

Which is a bit longer sure, but says more or less exactly what it does.

cheers

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-06  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-29 14:42 [PATCH 0/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 14:42 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 14:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Michal Hocko
2017-12-06  5:15   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-06  9:27     ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-06  9:27       ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-06 10:02       ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-06 10:02         ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-07 12:07   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-29 14:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs, elf: drop MAP_FIXED usage from elf_map Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 14:42   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 17:45   ` Khalid Aziz
2017-11-29 17:45     ` Khalid Aziz
2017-11-29 14:45 ` [PATCH] mmap.2: document new MAP_FIXED_SAFE flag Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  3:16   ` John Hubbard
2017-11-30  3:16     ` John Hubbard
2017-11-30  8:23     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  8:23       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  8:24   ` [PATCH v2] " Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  8:24     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  8:24     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30 18:31     ` John Hubbard
2017-11-30 18:39       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30 18:39         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 15:13 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE Rasmus Villemoes
2017-11-29 15:13   ` Rasmus Villemoes
     [not found]   ` <b154b794-7a8b-995e-0954-9234b9446b31-rjjw5hvvQKZaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-29 15:50     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 15:50       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 22:15   ` Kees Cook
2017-11-29 22:12 ` Kees Cook
2017-11-29 22:12   ` Kees Cook
2017-11-29 22:25 ` Kees Cook
     [not found]   ` <CAGXu5jLa=b2HhjWXXTQunaZuz11qUhm5aNXHpS26jVqb=G-gfw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-30  6:58     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30  6:58       ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-01 15:26       ` Cyril Hrubis
2017-12-01 15:26         ` Cyril Hrubis
2017-12-06  4:51         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-06  4:51           ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-06  4:54           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-06  4:54             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-06  7:03             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-06  7:03               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-06  7:33               ` John Hubbard
     [not found]                 ` <5f4fc834-274a-b8f1-bda0-5bcddc5902ed-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-06  7:35                   ` Florian Weimer
2017-12-06  7:35                     ` Florian Weimer
2017-12-06  8:06                     ` John Hubbard
2017-12-06  8:06                       ` John Hubbard
2017-12-06  8:06                       ` John Hubbard
     [not found]                       ` <27ee1755-76d8-f086-5760-9c973b31108a-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-06  8:54                         ` Florian Weimer
2017-12-06  8:54                           ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]               ` <20171206070355.GA32044-PfSpb0PWhxZc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-07  5:46                 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-07  5:46                   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-07 19:14                   ` Kees Cook
2017-12-07 19:14                     ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                     ` <CAGXu5jLWRQn6EaXEEvdvXr+4gbiJawwp1EaLMfYisHVfMiqgSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-07 19:57                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-07 19:57                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-08  8:33                         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                           ` <20171208083315.GR20234-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-08 20:13                             ` Kees Cook
2017-12-08 20:13                               ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                               ` <CAGXu5j+VupGmKEEHx-uNXw27Xvndu=0ObsBqMwQiaYPyMGD+vw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-08 20:57                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-08 20:57                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-08 11:08                         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-08 11:08                           ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-08 14:27                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-12-08 20:31                             ` Cyril Hrubis
2017-12-08 20:31                               ` Cyril Hrubis
2017-12-08 20:47                             ` Florian Weimer
2017-12-08 20:47                               ` Florian Weimer
2017-12-08 14:33                           ` David Laight
2017-12-08 14:33                             ` David Laight
2017-12-06  4:50       ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2017-12-06  4:50         ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]         ` <87zi6we9z2.fsf-W0DJWXSxmBNbyGPkN3NxC2scP1bn1w/D@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-06  7:33           ` Rasmus Villemoes
2017-12-06  7:33             ` Rasmus Villemoes
     [not found]             ` <a3b3129a-2626-a65e-59b0-68aada523723-rjjw5hvvQKZaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-06  9:08               ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-06  9:08                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-07  0:19                 ` Kees Cook
2017-12-07  0:19                   ` Kees Cook
2017-12-07  1:08                   ` John Hubbard

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