From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
joerg.roedel@amd.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de,
kraxel@redhat.com, eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:01:12 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zkgxakkv.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111018014650.GB6655@truffala.fritz.box>
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:46:50 +1100, David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 03:15:53PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 10/14/2011 04:14 AM, David Gibson wrote:
> > > > Virtio is a very, very special case. virtio requires coherent RAM access.
> > >
> > > Right. Virtio's access to memory is *not* emulated PCI DMA, it's
> > > god-like hypervisor access to guest system memory. It should
> > > correctly bypass any IOMMU, and so should remain as
> > > cpu_physical_memory_rw() or the atomic accessors, rather than being
> > > converted to this new API.
> >
> > virtio should definitely not bypass an iommu.
>
> So, I just had a chat with Rusty about this. Perhaps it shouldn't,
> but it does. The spec is in terms of guest physical addresses, not
> bus/DMA addresses, and more to the point the Linux driver does *not*
> do the necessary dma_map() and unmap operations to treat this as a PCI
> DMA. So like it or not, god-like hypervisor access rather than
> emulated PCI DMA is what it does.
Yep, it shouldn't but it does. Can't break it now without a feature
bit, and there's no particular reason to add it until someone really
wants it.
Cheers,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-19 3:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-05 4:34 [Qemu-devel] [0/9] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits (v2) David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA David Gibson
2011-10-02 10:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 10:29 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 10:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 10:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 11:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 11:28 ` Alexander Graf
2011-10-02 11:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 12:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 12:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-03 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-12 3:09 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 9:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-14 2:14 ` David Gibson
2011-10-16 12:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-16 13:15 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-18 1:46 ` David Gibson
2011-10-19 0:31 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2011-10-19 1:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-19 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-20 2:58 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 3:07 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 7:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-12 15:43 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 15:45 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 3:11 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 8:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-12 9:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-10-03 13:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-05 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] rtl8139: Use PCI DMA stub functions David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] eepro100: " David Gibson
2011-10-02 11:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-14 2:15 ` David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] ac97: " David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] es1370: " David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] e1000: " David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] lsi53c895a: " David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] pcnet-pci: " David Gibson
2011-09-05 4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] intel-hda: " David Gibson
2011-09-16 6:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [0/9] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits (v2) David Gibson
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