From: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
To: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
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linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
Cc: kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] selftests/mm: Add -Wunused family of flags
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:43:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88ea592c-c6ff-4a19-a366-eadeca66b039@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e9d7c59-46b4-4e1b-8a55-1898302f5080@collabora.com>
On 21/08/2025 08:28, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>> As to -Wunused-parameter I am frankly not convinced it's worth the
>> hassle. We're getting 90 lines changed in patch 6-8 just to mark
>> parameters as unused, in other words noise to keep the compiler happy.
>> It is not enabled by default in the kernel proper precisely because it
>> is so noisy when callbacks are involved.
>>
>> Patch 5 is clearly an improvement, but I'd rather take it without
>> actually enabling -Wunused-parameter. The rest of this patch isn't that
>> useful either IMHO.
> Patch 5 removes genuinely unused parameters flagged by the compiler. If we
> drop the -Wunused-parameter option, however, new unused parameters will
> continue to creep in with future patches. The goal of enabling this warning
> is to surface such issues early so developers can address them during
> development, rather than later during review or debugging.
>
> Long term, I’d like us to rely more on compiler and static analysis just like
> kernel to catch these kinds of problems proactively, instead of waiting until
> they’re reported or someone fixes them later. While it may feel like noise
> initially, this is largely a one-time cleanup—once done, developers will
> simply fix warnings as they arise, keeping the codebase cleaner going forward.
Agreed on the general principle, but I think the hassle is just too big
for what we're getting in return here (see also Andrew's reply). New
code may also introduce a bunch of unused parameters for legitimate
reasons and it's easy to imagine contributors ignoring such seemingly
harmless/irrelevant warnings instead of sprinkling __unused all over. My
feeling is that unused parameters are expected to be allowed in the
kernel and it isn't helpful to go against that expectation in just a
small subset of kselftests.
- Kevin
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From: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
To: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
Cc: kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] selftests/mm: Add -Wunused family of flags
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:43:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88ea592c-c6ff-4a19-a366-eadeca66b039@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e9d7c59-46b4-4e1b-8a55-1898302f5080@collabora.com>
On 21/08/2025 08:28, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
>> As to -Wunused-parameter I am frankly not convinced it's worth the
>> hassle. We're getting 90 lines changed in patch 6-8 just to mark
>> parameters as unused, in other words noise to keep the compiler happy.
>> It is not enabled by default in the kernel proper precisely because it
>> is so noisy when callbacks are involved.
>>
>> Patch 5 is clearly an improvement, but I'd rather take it without
>> actually enabling -Wunused-parameter. The rest of this patch isn't that
>> useful either IMHO.
> Patch 5 removes genuinely unused parameters flagged by the compiler. If we
> drop the -Wunused-parameter option, however, new unused parameters will
> continue to creep in with future patches. The goal of enabling this warning
> is to surface such issues early so developers can address them during
> development, rather than later during review or debugging.
>
> Long term, I’d like us to rely more on compiler and static analysis just like
> kernel to catch these kinds of problems proactively, instead of waiting until
> they’re reported or someone fixes them later. While it may feel like noise
> initially, this is largely a one-time cleanup—once done, developers will
> simply fix warnings as they arise, keeping the codebase cleaner going forward.
Agreed on the general principle, but I think the hassle is just too big
for what we're getting in return here (see also Andrew's reply). New
code may also introduce a bunch of unused parameters for legitimate
reasons and it's easy to imagine contributors ignoring such seemingly
harmless/irrelevant warnings instead of sprinkling __unused all over. My
feeling is that unused parameters are expected to be allowed in the
kernel and it isn't helpful to go against that expectation in just a
small subset of kselftests.
- Kevin
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-21 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-31 16:01 [PATCH v2 0/8] selftests/mm: Add compiler flags and fix found warnings Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] selftests/mm: Add -Wunreachable-code and fix warnings Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:32 ` Sidhartha Kumar
2025-07-31 16:32 ` Sidhartha Kumar
2025-08-18 8:10 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-08-18 8:10 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-08-21 6:19 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-21 6:19 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-21 10:34 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-08-21 10:34 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] selftests/mm: protection_keys: Fix dead code Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:39 ` Sidhartha Kumar
2025-07-31 16:39 ` Sidhartha Kumar
2025-08-18 8:12 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-08-18 8:12 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] selftests: kselftest.h: Add __unused macro Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-02 23:35 ` John Hubbard
2025-08-02 23:35 ` John Hubbard
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] selftests/mm: Add -Wunused family of flags Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-18 8:16 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-08-18 8:16 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-08-19 22:52 ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-19 22:52 ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-21 6:28 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-21 6:28 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-21 10:43 ` Kevin Brodsky [this message]
2025-08-21 10:43 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-08-21 12:31 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-21 12:31 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-08-21 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-21 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] selftests/mm: Remove unused parameters Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] selftests/mm: Mark unused arguments with __unused Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] " Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] selftests/mm: Fix unused parameter warnings for different architectures Muhammad Usama Anjum
2025-07-31 16:01 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
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