* [HDA-Intel/ALC268] no sound
@ 2007-06-27 21:34 Steven Zakulec
2007-07-02 17:25 ` Takashi Iwai
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Steven Zakulec @ 2007-06-27 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel
(Continued from this thread: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-June/001459.html)
I've included the result of alsactl -f somefile store. I thought it got sent to the list earlier, but apparently not. Below this I also added the alsa things from dmesg.
state.Intel {
control.1 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 64'
iface MIXER
name 'Front Playback Volume'
value.0 57
value.1 57
}
control.2 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Front Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 64'
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
value.0 63
value.1 63
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Volume'
value.0 1
value.1 1
}
control.6 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.7 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Volume'
index 1
value.0 1
value.1 1
}
control.8 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Switch'
index 1
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.9 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 Mic
comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
iface MIXER
name 'Input Source'
value Mic
}
control.10 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 Mic
comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
iface MIXER
name 'Input Source'
index 1
value Mic
}
control.11 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Off-hook Switch'
value false
}
control.12 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Caller ID Switch'
value false
}
control.13 {
comment.access 'read write user'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
iface MIXER
name 'PCM Playback Volume'
value.0 255
value.1 255
}
}
hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC268, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
[ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2339: autoconfig: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2343: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2347: hp_outs=1 (0x15/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2355: inputs: mic=0x19, fmic=0x18, line=0x0, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
[ 19.236000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c:244: si3054: cannot initialize. EXT MID = 0000
[ 19.244000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c:256: Link Frame Detect(FDT) is not ready (line status: 0000)
comment.count 2
:
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* Re: [HDA-Intel/ALC268] no sound
2007-06-27 21:34 [HDA-Intel/ALC268] no sound Steven Zakulec
@ 2007-07-02 17:25 ` Takashi Iwai
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2007-07-02 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steven Zakulec; +Cc: alsa-devel
At Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:34:15 -0400 (EDT),
Steven Zakulec wrote:
>
> (Continued from this thread: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-June/001459.html)
>
> I've included the result of alsactl -f somefile store. I thought it got sent to the list earlier, but apparently not. Below this I also added the alsa things from dmesg.
And the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec#* files, please.
If you change the mixer status, these files also changed, too.
Also, please inform what you tested more exactly. In which hardware
configuration and which application with what parameters...
Takashi
>
> state.Intel {
> control.1 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 64'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Front Playback Volume'
> value.0 57
> value.1 57
> }
> control.2 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Front Playback Switch'
> value.0 true
> value.1 true
> }
> control.3 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 64'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
> value.0 63
> value.1 63
> }
> control.4 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Headphone Playback Switch'
> value.0 true
> value.1 true
> }
> control.5 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 31'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Volume'
> value.0 1
> value.1 1
> }
> control.6 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Switch'
> value.0 false
> value.1 false
> }
> control.7 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 31'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Volume'
> index 1
> value.0 1
> value.1 1
> }
> control.8 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Switch'
> index 1
> value.0 false
> value.1 false
> }
> control.9 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type ENUMERATED
> comment.count 1
> comment.item.0 Mic
> comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Input Source'
> value Mic
> }
> control.10 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type ENUMERATED
> comment.count 1
> comment.item.0 Mic
> comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Input Source'
> index 1
> value Mic
> }
> control.11 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 1
> iface MIXER
> name 'Off-hook Switch'
> value false
> }
> control.12 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 1
> iface MIXER
> name 'Caller ID Switch'
> value false
> }
> control.13 {
> comment.access 'read write user'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 255'
> comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
> iface MIXER
> name 'PCM Playback Volume'
> value.0 255
> value.1 255
> }
> }
> hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC268, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2339: autoconfig: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2343: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2347: hp_outs=1 (0x15/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2355: inputs: mic=0x19, fmic=0x18, line=0x0, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
> [ 19.236000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c:244: si3054: cannot initialize. EXT MID = 0000
> [ 19.244000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c:256: Link Frame Detect(FDT) is not ready (line status: 0000)
>
>
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> comment.count 2
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* Re: [HDA-Intel/ALC268] no sound
@ 2007-07-03 0:45 Steven Zakulec
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Steven Zakulec @ 2007-07-03 0:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tiwai; +Cc: alsa-devel
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6252 bytes --]
I've attached the file. I tried using aplay and ffplay- both had no trouble opening and playing a file, there was just no sound.
---------------------------------------
Original E-mail
From: Takashi Iwai [tiwai@suse.de]
Date: 07/02/2007 01:25 PM
To: Steven Zakulec [spzakulec@mail.widener.edu]
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [HDA-Intel/ALC268] no sound
At Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:34:15 -0400 (EDT),
Steven Zakulec wrote:
>
> (Continued from this thread: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-June/001459.html)
>
> I've included the result of alsactl -f somefile store. I thought it got sent to the list earlier, but apparently not. Below this I also added the alsa things from dmesg.
And the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec#* files, please.
If you change the mixer status, these files also changed, too.
Also, please inform what you tested more exactly. In which hardware
configuration and which application with what parameters...
Takashi
>
> state.Intel {
> control.1 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 64'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Front Playback Volume'
> value.0 57
> value.1 57
> }
> control.2 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Front Playback Switch'
> value.0 true
> value.1 true
> }
> control.3 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 64'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
> value.0 63
> value.1 63
> }
> control.4 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Headphone Playback Switch'
> value.0 true
> value.1 true
> }
> control.5 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 31'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Volume'
> value.0 1
> value.1 1
> }
> control.6 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Switch'
> value.0 false
> value.1 false
> }
> control.7 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 31'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Volume'
> index 1
> value.0 1
> value.1 1
> }
> control.8 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 2
> iface MIXER
> name 'Capture Switch'
> index 1
> value.0 false
> value.1 false
> }
> control.9 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type ENUMERATED
> comment.count 1
> comment.item.0 Mic
> comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Input Source'
> value Mic
> }
> control.10 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type ENUMERATED
> comment.count 1
> comment.item.0 Mic
> comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
> iface MIXER
> name 'Input Source'
> index 1
> value Mic
> }
> control.11 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 1
> iface MIXER
> name 'Off-hook Switch'
> value false
> }
> control.12 {
> comment.access 'read write'
> comment.type BOOLEAN
> comment.count 1
> iface MIXER
> name 'Caller ID Switch'
> value false
> }
> control.13 {
> comment.access 'read write user'
> comment.type INTEGER
> comment.count 2
> comment.range '0 - 255'
> comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
> iface MIXER
> name 'PCM Playback Volume'
> value.0 255
> value.1 255
> }
> }
> hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC268, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2339: autoconfig: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2343: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2347: hp_outs=1 (0x15/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> [ 18.512000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2355: inputs: mic=0x19, fmic=0x18, line=0x0, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
> [ 19.236000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c:244: si3054: cannot initialize. EXT MID = 0000
> [ 19.244000] ALSA /home/szakulec/alsa-hg/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_si3054.c:256: Link Frame Detect(FDT) is not ready (line status: 0000)
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[-- Attachment #2: codec.txt --]
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Codec: Realtek ALC268
Address: 0
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0268
Subsystem Id: 0x1179ff10
Revision Id: 0x100003
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
Amp-Out vals: [0x30 0x30]
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
Amp-Out vals: [0x3f 0x3f]
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x04 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x05 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital
PCM:
rates [0x5e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000
bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x07 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100111: Stereo
PCM:
rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
bits [0x6]: 16 20
formats [0x1]: PCM
Connection: 1
0x24
Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100111: Stereo
PCM:
rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
bits [0x6]: 16 20
formats [0x1]: PCM
Connection: 1
0x23
Node 0x09 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0a [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0b [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0c [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0d [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010a: Mono Amp-In
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x00]
Connection: 1
0x02
Node 0x0f [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 2
0x02 0x1d
Node 0x10 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 3
0x03 0x1d 0x02
Node 0x11 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
Pincap 0x0820: IN
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Node 0x13 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
Pincap 0x0820: IN
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
Pincap 0x081003c: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect
Pin Default 0x99130110: [Fixed] Speaker at Int ATAPI
Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Connection: 1
0x0f
Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
Pincap 0x081003c: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect
Pin Default 0x02211020: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP
Connection: 1
0x10
Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40010c: Mono Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x80]
Pincap 0x0810: OUT
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Connection: 1
0x0e
Node 0x17 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x02, stepsize=0x4f, mute=0
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00]
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
Pincap 0x083734: IN OUT Detect
Pin Default 0x02a11830: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN
Connection: 1
0x02
Node 0x19 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40008b: Stereo Amp-In
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x02, stepsize=0x4f, mute=0
Amp-In vals:
Pincap 0x083724: IN Detect
Pin Default 0x99a30940: [Fixed] Mic at Int ATAPI
Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN
Node 0x1a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x02, stepsize=0x4f, mute=0
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00]
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
Pincap 0x083734: IN OUT Detect
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Connection: 1
0x02
Node 0x1b [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x1c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
Pincap 0x0820: IN
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Node 0x1d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400000: Mono
Pincap 0x0820: IN
Pin Default 0x4015812d: [N/A] Speaker at Ext N/A
Conn = Optical, Color = Purple
Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Node 0x1e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400380: Mono Digital
Pincap 0x0810: OUT
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Connection: 1
0x06
Node 0x1f [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x20 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00040: Mono
Node 0x21 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x22 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x23 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x0b, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x81 0x81]
Connection: 7
0x18* 0x19 0x1a 0x1c 0x14 0x15 0x12
Node 0x24 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x0b, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x81 0x81]
Connection: 7
0x18* 0x19 0x1a 0x1c 0x14 0x15 0x13
Codec: Generic 11c1 Si3054
Address: 1
Vendor Id: 0x11c11040
Subsystem Id: 0x11790001
Revision Id: 0x100200
Modem Function Group: 0x1
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