* [PATCH] x86/spec-ctrl: Use IST RSB protection for !SVM systems
@ 2022-08-05 10:38 Andrew Cooper
2022-08-05 10:49 ` Jan Beulich
2022-08-15 8:26 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Cooper @ 2022-08-05 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xen-devel; +Cc: Andrew Cooper, Jan Beulich, Roger Pau Monné, Wei Liu
There is a corner case where a VT-x guest which manages to reliably trigger
non-fatal #MC's could evade the rogue RSB speculation protections that were
supposed to be in place.
This is a lack of defence in depth; Xen does not architecturally execute more
RET than CALL instructions, so an attacker would have to locate a different
gadget (e.g. SpectreRSB) first to execute a transient path of excess RET
instructions.
Signed-off-by: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
---
CC: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
CC: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
CC: Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>
---
xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
diff --git a/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c b/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
index 44e86f3d674d..d2cd5459739f 100644
--- a/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
+++ b/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
@@ -1327,8 +1327,24 @@ void __init init_speculation_mitigations(void)
* mappings.
*/
if ( opt_rsb_hvm )
+ {
setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_SC_RSB_HVM);
+ /*
+ * For SVM, Xen's RSB safety actions are performed before STGI, so
+ * behave atomically with respect to IST sources.
+ *
+ * For VT-x, NMIs are atomic with VMExit (the NMI gets queued but not
+ * delivered) whereas other IST sources are not atomic. Specifically,
+ * #MC can hit ahead the RSB safety action in the vmexit path.
+ *
+ * Therefore, it is necessary for the IST logic to protect Xen against
+ * possible rogue RSB speculation.
+ */
+ if ( !cpu_has_svm )
+ default_spec_ctrl_flags |= SCF_ist_rsb;
+ }
+
ibpb_calculations();
/* Check whether Eager FPU should be enabled by default. */
--
2.11.0
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2022-08-05 10:38 [PATCH] x86/spec-ctrl: Use IST RSB protection for !SVM systems Andrew Cooper
@ 2022-08-05 10:49 ` Jan Beulich
2022-08-15 8:26 ` Jan Beulich
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2022-08-05 10:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Cooper; +Cc: Roger Pau Monné, Wei Liu, Xen-devel
On 05.08.2022 12:38, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> There is a corner case where a VT-x guest which manages to reliably trigger
> non-fatal #MC's could evade the rogue RSB speculation protections that were
> supposed to be in place.
>
> This is a lack of defence in depth; Xen does not architecturally execute more
> RET than CALL instructions, so an attacker would have to locate a different
> gadget (e.g. SpectreRSB) first to execute a transient path of excess RET
> instructions.
>
> Signed-off-by: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Reviewed-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] x86/spec-ctrl: Use IST RSB protection for !SVM systems
2022-08-05 10:38 [PATCH] x86/spec-ctrl: Use IST RSB protection for !SVM systems Andrew Cooper
2022-08-05 10:49 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2022-08-15 8:26 ` Jan Beulich
2022-08-15 9:33 ` Andrew Cooper
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2022-08-15 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Cooper; +Cc: Roger Pau Monné, Wei Liu, Xen-devel
On 05.08.2022 12:38, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> --- a/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
> @@ -1327,8 +1327,24 @@ void __init init_speculation_mitigations(void)
> * mappings.
> */
> if ( opt_rsb_hvm )
> + {
> setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_SC_RSB_HVM);
>
> + /*
> + * For SVM, Xen's RSB safety actions are performed before STGI, so
> + * behave atomically with respect to IST sources.
> + *
> + * For VT-x, NMIs are atomic with VMExit (the NMI gets queued but not
> + * delivered) whereas other IST sources are not atomic. Specifically,
> + * #MC can hit ahead the RSB safety action in the vmexit path.
> + *
> + * Therefore, it is necessary for the IST logic to protect Xen against
> + * possible rogue RSB speculation.
> + */
> + if ( !cpu_has_svm )
> + default_spec_ctrl_flags |= SCF_ist_rsb;
Only now, when I'm about to backport this, it occurs to me to ask: Why
is this !cpu_has_svm rather than cpu_has_vmx? Plus shouldn't this further
be gated upon HVM actually being in use (i.e. in particular CONFIG_HVM=y
in the first place)?
Jan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: [PATCH] x86/spec-ctrl: Use IST RSB protection for !SVM systems
2022-08-15 8:26 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2022-08-15 9:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-15 9:41 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Cooper @ 2022-08-15 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich; +Cc: Roger Pau Monne, Wei Liu, Xen-devel
On 15/08/2022 09:26, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 05.08.2022 12:38, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
>> @@ -1327,8 +1327,24 @@ void __init init_speculation_mitigations(void)
>> * mappings.
>> */
>> if ( opt_rsb_hvm )
>> + {
>> setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_SC_RSB_HVM);
>>
>> + /*
>> + * For SVM, Xen's RSB safety actions are performed before STGI, so
>> + * behave atomically with respect to IST sources.
>> + *
>> + * For VT-x, NMIs are atomic with VMExit (the NMI gets queued but not
>> + * delivered) whereas other IST sources are not atomic. Specifically,
>> + * #MC can hit ahead the RSB safety action in the vmexit path.
>> + *
>> + * Therefore, it is necessary for the IST logic to protect Xen against
>> + * possible rogue RSB speculation.
>> + */
>> + if ( !cpu_has_svm )
>> + default_spec_ctrl_flags |= SCF_ist_rsb;
> Only now, when I'm about to backport this, it occurs to me to ask: Why
> is this !cpu_has_svm rather than cpu_has_vmx?
Because it is only SVM known to be safe.
> Plus shouldn't this further
> be gated upon HVM actually being in use (i.e. in particular CONFIG_HVM=y
> in the first place)?
Perhaps, but not locally here. All of init_speculation_mitigations()
wants reconsidering if you're going down that route.
~Andrew
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: [PATCH] x86/spec-ctrl: Use IST RSB protection for !SVM systems
2022-08-15 9:33 ` Andrew Cooper
@ 2022-08-15 9:41 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2022-08-15 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Cooper; +Cc: Roger Pau Monne, Wei Liu, Xen-devel
On 15.08.2022 11:33, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 15/08/2022 09:26, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 05.08.2022 12:38, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
>>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/spec_ctrl.c
>>> @@ -1327,8 +1327,24 @@ void __init init_speculation_mitigations(void)
>>> * mappings.
>>> */
>>> if ( opt_rsb_hvm )
>>> + {
>>> setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_SC_RSB_HVM);
>>>
>>> + /*
>>> + * For SVM, Xen's RSB safety actions are performed before STGI, so
>>> + * behave atomically with respect to IST sources.
>>> + *
>>> + * For VT-x, NMIs are atomic with VMExit (the NMI gets queued but not
>>> + * delivered) whereas other IST sources are not atomic. Specifically,
>>> + * #MC can hit ahead the RSB safety action in the vmexit path.
>>> + *
>>> + * Therefore, it is necessary for the IST logic to protect Xen against
>>> + * possible rogue RSB speculation.
>>> + */
>>> + if ( !cpu_has_svm )
>>> + default_spec_ctrl_flags |= SCF_ist_rsb;
>> Only now, when I'm about to backport this, it occurs to me to ask: Why
>> is this !cpu_has_svm rather than cpu_has_vmx?
>
> Because it is only SVM known to be safe.
Yes. Which amounts to only VT-x being unsafe. And in particular PV alone
(e.g. shim, from the perspective of the shim itself) is safe as well, no
matter what CPU we're on.
>> Plus shouldn't this further
>> be gated upon HVM actually being in use (i.e. in particular CONFIG_HVM=y
>> in the first place)?
>
> Perhaps, but not locally here. All of init_speculation_mitigations()
> wants reconsidering if you're going down that route.
Not sure - many of the settings (like X86_FEATURE_SC_RSB_HVM also being
set in the enclosing if()) only affect HVM-specific code paths, so which
way they are set wouldn't matter when !CONFIG_HVM. But the one here
clearly affects a common code path, for no gains at all. It's not an
overly hot code path, sure, but it still strikes me as odd.
Jan
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