From: Anand Suveer Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel <linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: Zorro Lang <zlang@kernel.org>
Cc: djwong@kernel.org, fstests@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v8 05/13] fstests: add _require_unique_f_fsid() helper
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2026 07:32:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9832242f-cc39-46f7-847b-70871e52a373@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apb19-FLJv9dRFDS@zlang-mailbox>
On 2/9/26 00:09, Zorro Lang wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 03:39:02PM +0800, Anand Jain wrote:
>> Add a helper to check if the target filesystem supports unique f_fsid
>> tracking across cloned or snapshot instances.
>>
>> Certain filesystems like XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure unique f_fsid
>> identifiers per filesystem instance. However, Ext4 derives its f_fsid
>> directly from its superblock UUID, which leads to identical f_fsid
>> values on cloned images until the UUID is manually modified by userspace.
>>
>> Introduce _require_unique_f_fsid() to allow test cases requiring strict
>> f_fsid uniqueness to skip gracefully on unsupported filesystems.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
>> ---
>> common/rc | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/common/rc b/common/rc
>> index 21b516accdf7..f73251365a60 100644
>> --- a/common/rc
>> +++ b/common/rc
>> @@ -6356,6 +6356,33 @@ _require_fanotify_ioerrors()
>> _notrun "$FSTYP does not support fanotify ioerrors"
>> }
>>
>> +# Skip the test if the filesystem does not enforce unique f_fsids
>> +# natively. Checking this dynamically requires recreating a clone
>> +# layout, so we use a static lookup based on FSTYP.
>> +#
>> +# Across all filesystems, a UUID collision causes libblkid tools to return
>> +# non-deterministic device mappings. It is ultimately the responsibility
>> +# of the userspace utility or use-case to enforce uniqueness when a clone
>> +# diverges. For details, see mailing list thread discussions:
>> +# Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/20260409131238.GC18443@macsyma-wired.lan/
>> +_require_unique_f_fsid()
>> +{
>> + case "$FSTYP" in
>> + ext*)
>> + # Ext4 derives f_fsid from the superblock UUID, meaning
>> + # clones share the same f_fsid until their UUIDs
>> + # diverge.
>> + _notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
>> + ;;
>> + *)
>> + # Conversely, XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure f_fsid remains
>> + # unique per filesystem instance (often by deriving it
>> + # from the UUID and underlying block device.)
>> + ;;
>> + esac
>
> I would prefer to let the experts of each filesystem confirm whether their
> fs guarantees a unique f_fsid.
Theoretically, whether f_fsid is unique per clone depends on
how it is derived. If it includes the device major:minor,
it provides a unique ID per clone.
Btrfs does it since commit
c2a74ed0494c btrfs: derive f_fsid from on-disk fsid and dev_t
> How about switching this logic to an *allowlist*
> *(whitelist)* approach, where we _notrun by default and only allow filesystems
> that explicitly guarantee unique f_fsid support?
>
> case "$FSTYP" in
> btrfs|xfs|f2fs)
> ;;
> *)
> _notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
> ;;
> esac
So _notrun() unless confirmed to have unique f_fsid for the cloned
filesystem. Works for me.
Thanks, Anand
> Thanks,
> Zorro
>
>> +}
>> +
>> +
>> # Computes a percentage of the available space in a filesystem and
>> # returns that quantity in MB. The percentage must not contain a percent
>> # sign ("%").
>> --
>> 2.43.0
>>
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From: Anand Suveer Jain <asj@kernel.org>
To: Zorro Lang <zlang@kernel.org>
Cc: fstests@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, djwong@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 05/13] fstests: add _require_unique_f_fsid() helper
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2026 07:32:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9832242f-cc39-46f7-847b-70871e52a373@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apb19-FLJv9dRFDS@zlang-mailbox>
On 2/9/26 00:09, Zorro Lang wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 03:39:02PM +0800, Anand Jain wrote:
>> Add a helper to check if the target filesystem supports unique f_fsid
>> tracking across cloned or snapshot instances.
>>
>> Certain filesystems like XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure unique f_fsid
>> identifiers per filesystem instance. However, Ext4 derives its f_fsid
>> directly from its superblock UUID, which leads to identical f_fsid
>> values on cloned images until the UUID is manually modified by userspace.
>>
>> Introduce _require_unique_f_fsid() to allow test cases requiring strict
>> f_fsid uniqueness to skip gracefully on unsupported filesystems.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
>> ---
>> common/rc | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/common/rc b/common/rc
>> index 21b516accdf7..f73251365a60 100644
>> --- a/common/rc
>> +++ b/common/rc
>> @@ -6356,6 +6356,33 @@ _require_fanotify_ioerrors()
>> _notrun "$FSTYP does not support fanotify ioerrors"
>> }
>>
>> +# Skip the test if the filesystem does not enforce unique f_fsids
>> +# natively. Checking this dynamically requires recreating a clone
>> +# layout, so we use a static lookup based on FSTYP.
>> +#
>> +# Across all filesystems, a UUID collision causes libblkid tools to return
>> +# non-deterministic device mappings. It is ultimately the responsibility
>> +# of the userspace utility or use-case to enforce uniqueness when a clone
>> +# diverges. For details, see mailing list thread discussions:
>> +# Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/20260409131238.GC18443@macsyma-wired.lan/
>> +_require_unique_f_fsid()
>> +{
>> + case "$FSTYP" in
>> + ext*)
>> + # Ext4 derives f_fsid from the superblock UUID, meaning
>> + # clones share the same f_fsid until their UUIDs
>> + # diverge.
>> + _notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
>> + ;;
>> + *)
>> + # Conversely, XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure f_fsid remains
>> + # unique per filesystem instance (often by deriving it
>> + # from the UUID and underlying block device.)
>> + ;;
>> + esac
>
> I would prefer to let the experts of each filesystem confirm whether their
> fs guarantees a unique f_fsid.
Theoretically, whether f_fsid is unique per clone depends on
how it is derived. If it includes the device major:minor,
it provides a unique ID per clone.
Btrfs does it since commit
c2a74ed0494c btrfs: derive f_fsid from on-disk fsid and dev_t
> How about switching this logic to an *allowlist*
> *(whitelist)* approach, where we _notrun by default and only allow filesystems
> that explicitly guarantee unique f_fsid support?
>
> case "$FSTYP" in
> btrfs|xfs|f2fs)
> ;;
> *)
> _notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
> ;;
> esac
So _notrun() unless confirmed to have unique f_fsid for the cloned
filesystem. Works for me.
Thanks, Anand
> Thanks,
> Zorro
>
>> +}
>> +
>> +
>> # Computes a percentage of the available space in a filesystem and
>> # returns that quantity in MB. The percentage must not contain a percent
>> # sign ("%").
>> --
>> 2.43.0
>>
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2026-07-25 7:38 [PATCH v8 0/13] fstests: add test coverage for cloned filesystem ids Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:38 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:38 ` [PATCH v8 01/13] fstests: add _loop_image_create_clone() helper Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:38 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 12:33 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 12:33 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 13:52 ` Anand Suveer Jain
2026-09-01 13:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Suveer Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:38 ` [PATCH v8 02/13] fstests: add _clone_mount_option() helper Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:38 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 12:39 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 12:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 13:54 ` Anand Suveer Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 13:54 ` Anand Suveer Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 03/13] fstests: add FSNOTIFYWAIT_PROG Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 15:37 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 15:37 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 04/13] fstests: add _require_fanotify_function Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 15:42 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 15:42 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 22:39 ` Anand Suveer Jain
2026-09-01 22:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Suveer Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 05/13] fstests: add _require_unique_f_fsid() helper Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 16:09 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 16:09 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 23:32 ` Anand Suveer Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel [this message]
2026-09-01 23:32 ` Anand Suveer Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 06/13] fstests: add SEMANAGE_PROG Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 07/13] fstests: verify fanotify isolation on cloned filesystems Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 18:23 ` Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 18:23 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-04 6:14 ` Anand Suveer Jain
2026-09-04 6:14 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Suveer Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 08/13] fstests: verify f_fsid for " Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 18:51 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 18:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 09/13] fstests: verify libblkid resolution of duplicate UUIDs Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 19:12 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 19:12 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 10/13] fstests: verify IMA isolation on cloned filesystems Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 19:58 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 19:58 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 11/13] fstests: verify exportfs file handles " Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 20:29 ` Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 20:29 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 20:30 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 20:30 ` Zorro Lang
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 12/13] fstests: add _change_metadata_uuid helper Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 20:53 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 20:53 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 13/13] fstests: test UUID consistency for clones with metadata_uuid Anand Jain
2026-07-25 7:39 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-09-01 20:51 ` Zorro Lang
2026-09-01 20:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zorro Lang via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-31 7:17 ` [PATCH v8 0/13] fstests: add test coverage for cloned filesystem ids Anand Suveer Jain
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