From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, urezki@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>, Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] rcu: Use an intermediate irq_work to start process_srcu()
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 10:56:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98598125-b6dd-4ea2-864a-e6e2836948b3@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acJ1HRXomQhbTN4_@localhost.localdomain>
On 3/24/2026 7:27 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Le Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 03:29:16PM -0700, Boqun Feng a écrit :
>> Since commit c27cea4416a3 ("rcu: Re-implement RCU Tasks Trace in terms
>> of SRCU-fast") we switched to SRCU in BPF. However as BPF instrument can
>> happen basically everywhere (including where a scheduler lock is held),
>> call_srcu() now needs to avoid acquiring scheduler lock because
>> otherwise it could cause deadlock [1]. Fix this by following what the
>> previous RCU Tasks Trace did: using an irq_work to delay the queuing of
>> the work to start process_srcu().
>>
>> [boqun: Apply Joel's feedback]
>> [boqun: Apply Andrea's test feedback]
>>
>> Reported-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
>> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/abjzvz_tL_siV17s@gpd4/
>> Fixes: commit c27cea4416a3 ("rcu: Re-implement RCU Tasks Trace in terms of SRCU-fast")
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rcu/3c4c5a29-24ea-492d-aeee-e0d9605b4183@nvidia.com/ [1]
>> Suggested-by: Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>
>> Tested-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
>
> I have the feeling that this problem should be solved at the BPF
> level. Tracepoints can fire at any time, in that sense they are like NMIs,
> and NMIs shouldn't acquire locks, let alone call call_rcu_*()
>
> BPF should arrange for delaying such operations to more appropriate contexts.
>
> I understand this is a regression trigerred by an RCU change but to me it
> rather reveals a hidden design issue rather than an API breakage.
Sure, but there is a valid point I think by those who say that "This was
working before the RCU change". So in that sense, we ought to have this
(possibly short-term fix).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-24 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-17 13:34 Next-level bug in SRCU implementation of RCU Tasks Trace + PREEMPT_RT Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 10:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 11:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 14:43 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 15:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 16:04 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 16:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 16:42 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 18:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 16:47 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 18:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 8:55 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 10:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 10:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 10:51 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 15:51 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 20:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-18 20:11 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-18 20:25 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-18 21:52 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 21:55 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 22:15 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 22:52 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-18 23:27 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 1:08 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 9:03 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 16:27 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 16:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 16:48 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 16:59 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-19 17:27 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 18:41 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-19 20:14 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 20:21 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 20:39 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 15:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-20 15:59 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 16:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-20 16:57 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 17:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-20 18:14 ` [PATCH] rcu: Use an intermediate irq_work to start process_srcu() Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 19:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-20 20:47 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-20 20:54 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 21:00 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-20 21:02 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-20 21:06 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 22:29 ` [PATCH v2] " Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 21:09 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-23 22:18 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 22:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-24 11:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-24 14:56 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2026-03-24 14:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-03-24 17:36 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-24 18:40 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-24 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-26 19:12 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2026-03-21 4:27 ` [PATCH] " Zqiang
2026-03-21 18:15 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 10:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 17:15 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 17:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 18:06 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 19:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 19:45 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 20:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 20:08 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 10:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 16:16 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 17:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 17:31 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 17:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 18:17 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 19:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 20:26 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 7:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-20 18:20 ` Next-level bug in SRCU implementation of RCU Tasks Trace + PREEMPT_RT Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 23:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 3:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 17:03 ` [RFC PATCH] rcu-tasks: Avoid using mod_timer() in call_rcu_tasks_generic() Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 15:17 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 20:37 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-23 21:50 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-23 22:13 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 16:15 ` Next-level bug in SRCU implementation of RCU Tasks Trace + PREEMPT_RT Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 16:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 17:02 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 17:44 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 18:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 20:20 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 20:26 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 20:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 10:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 14:34 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 16:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 23:56 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-19 0:26 ` Zqiang
2026-03-19 1:13 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 2:47 ` Joel Fernandes
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