From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
Cc: David Wagner <daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Entropy from net devices - keyboard & IDE just as 'bad' [was Re: [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2)]
Date: 21 Aug 2001 17:57:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <998431094.4293.46.camel@phantasy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <998430650.4293.33.camel@phantasy>
In-Reply-To: <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMCEDNDFAA.davids@webmaster.com> <606175155.998387452@[169.254.45.213]> <9lu9ag$n5v$6@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu> <998430650.4293.33.camel@phantasy>
On Tue, 2001-08-21 at 17:50, Robert Love wrote:
><snip>
>
> In theory, we dont need both SHA-1 hash and the entropy count. They
> exist to pacify a theoretical weakness in each.
>
> Now, my net device patch should only be enabled in situations where both
> you trust SHA-1 (and I think most do) and you trust that reading net
> devices yields the full amount of entropy.
'lil typo on my part. actually, if you trust SHA-1, it does not matter
if your net devices give zero entropy, because the SHA-1 hash of the
read from /dev/random is still unpredictable.
the problem is if you both _dont_ trust SHA-1 and _fear_ there is
less-than-estimated entropy from net devices on your network.
per Alex Bligh's suggestion, the Configure wording of the next patch
will explain this.
--
Robert M. Love
rml at ufl.edu
rml at tech9.net
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-21 21:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-08-16 4:36 [PATCH] Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:40 ` [PATCH] 2.4.9-pre4: Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy (1/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:42 ` [PATCH] 2.4.9-pre4: Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy (2/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:43 ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-ac5: let Net Devices feed Entropy (1/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:44 ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-ac5: let Net Devices feed Entropy (2/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 8:50 ` [PATCH] Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy Francois Romieu
2001-08-16 14:50 ` Robert Love
2001-08-16 17:02 ` Francois Romieu
2001-08-16 19:28 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-16 20:19 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-17 0:47 ` Robert Love
2001-08-17 22:56 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-18 5:57 ` Robert Love
2001-08-18 17:44 ` [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2) Robert Love
2001-08-18 23:41 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 0:38 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-19 3:33 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 3:49 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 7:17 ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2001-08-19 18:46 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-19 3:12 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 3:36 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 3:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-19 3:57 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 3:56 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 14:43 ` lists
2001-08-19 21:34 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:08 ` Entropy from net devices - keyboard & IDE just as 'bad' [was Re: [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2)] Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:18 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:30 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-19 22:38 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:46 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-20 13:25 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 19:48 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-21 8:50 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 7:49 ` David Lang
2001-08-21 9:21 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 10:06 ` Entropy from net devices - keyboard & IDE just as 'bad' (better timing in random.c) Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-21 18:31 ` Entropy from net devices - keyboard & IDE just as 'bad' [was Re: [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2)] David Wagner
2001-08-21 21:53 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 18:29 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 21:50 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 21:57 ` Robert Love [this message]
2001-08-19 17:08 ` [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2) Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 18:02 ` David Madore
2001-08-19 23:47 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 21:19 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:24 ` David Ford
2001-08-20 10:02 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-20 10:34 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-20 10:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-20 13:07 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-20 13:57 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 14:25 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-21 1:11 ` Theodore Tso
2001-08-21 1:36 ` Richard Gooch
2001-08-21 9:43 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-21 9:59 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-21 17:19 ` Richard Gooch
2001-08-21 18:33 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 4:33 ` Robert Love
2001-08-20 16:15 ` Robert Love
2001-08-20 16:36 ` Robert Love
2001-08-22 6:10 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-08-22 6:26 ` Robert Love
2001-08-22 17:27 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-08-22 8:54 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-22 13:47 ` Chris Friesen
2001-08-19 20:58 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:19 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-19 22:29 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 2:26 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-20 23:08 ` Tom Rini
2001-08-17 0:47 ` [PATCH] Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy Robert Love
2001-08-17 14:34 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-17 0:47 ` Robert Love
2001-08-17 9:05 ` Francois Romieu
2001-08-17 15:00 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
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