From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Johan Adolfsson <johan.adolfsson@axis.com>
Cc: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>,
Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@conectiva.com.br
Subject: Re: [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2)
Date: 20 Aug 2001 12:36:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <998325471.2936.25.camel@phantasy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21a701c12963$bcb05b60$0a070d0a@axis.se>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0108182234250.31188-100000@waste.org> <998193404.653.12.camel@phantasy> <3B80E01B.2C61FF8@evision-ventures.com> <21a701c12963$bcb05b60$0a070d0a@axis.se>
On 20 Aug 2001 12:34:48 +0200, Johan Adolfsson wrote:
> And I think you are wrong, this patch is needed.
> Keep up the good work Robert!
I will -- thank you for the words. :)
> Where would you get the single seed from in an embedded head
> less system if you don't have a hardware random generator,
> no disk and don't seed it from the network interrupts?
exactly. this thread has gone off on a tangent arguing the very merits
of /dev/random itself. obviously if you dislike the kernel's entropy
gatherer, this patch won't sit well either.
the proper argument is, assuming that /dev/random is A Good Thing, is
this patch useful? since its configurable, its not forcing any policy.
since it can be argued pretty strongly that more entropy is needed on a
headless and/or diskless, I think some people need it. personally, it
boosts my self-esteem to have another source of entropy (my 3c905). if
you are worried of the threats net devices have to your entropy, by all
means -- dont enable the config setting.
> I think the patch makes sense - let people have the config option.
hopefully we can get the patch merged, if for nothing else for 2.5.
--
Robert M. Love
rml at ufl.edu
rml at tech9.net
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-20 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-08-16 4:36 [PATCH] Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:40 ` [PATCH] 2.4.9-pre4: Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy (1/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:42 ` [PATCH] 2.4.9-pre4: Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy (2/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:43 ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-ac5: let Net Devices feed Entropy (1/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 4:44 ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-ac5: let Net Devices feed Entropy (2/2) Robert Love
2001-08-16 8:50 ` [PATCH] Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy Francois Romieu
2001-08-16 14:50 ` Robert Love
2001-08-16 17:02 ` Francois Romieu
2001-08-16 19:28 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-16 20:19 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-17 0:47 ` Robert Love
2001-08-17 22:56 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-18 5:57 ` Robert Love
2001-08-18 17:44 ` [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2) Robert Love
2001-08-18 23:41 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 0:38 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-19 3:33 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 3:49 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 7:17 ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2001-08-19 18:46 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-19 3:12 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 3:36 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 3:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-19 3:57 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 3:56 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 14:43 ` lists
2001-08-19 21:34 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:08 ` Entropy from net devices - keyboard & IDE just as 'bad' [was Re: [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2)] Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:18 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:30 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-19 22:38 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:46 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-20 13:25 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 19:48 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-21 8:50 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 7:49 ` David Lang
2001-08-21 9:21 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 10:06 ` Entropy from net devices - keyboard & IDE just as 'bad' (better timing in random.c) Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-21 18:31 ` Entropy from net devices - keyboard & IDE just as 'bad' [was Re: [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2)] David Wagner
2001-08-21 21:53 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 18:29 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 21:50 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 21:57 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 17:08 ` [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2) Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 18:02 ` David Madore
2001-08-19 23:47 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 21:19 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:24 ` David Ford
2001-08-20 10:02 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-20 10:34 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-20 10:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-20 13:07 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-20 13:57 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 14:25 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-21 1:11 ` Theodore Tso
2001-08-21 1:36 ` Richard Gooch
2001-08-21 9:43 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-21 9:59 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-21 17:19 ` Richard Gooch
2001-08-21 18:33 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 4:33 ` Robert Love
2001-08-20 16:15 ` Robert Love
2001-08-20 16:36 ` Robert Love [this message]
2001-08-22 6:10 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-08-22 6:26 ` Robert Love
2001-08-22 17:27 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-08-22 8:54 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-22 13:47 ` Chris Friesen
2001-08-19 20:58 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:19 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-19 22:29 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 2:26 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-20 23:08 ` Tom Rini
2001-08-17 0:47 ` [PATCH] Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy Robert Love
2001-08-17 14:34 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-17 0:47 ` Robert Love
2001-08-17 9:05 ` Francois Romieu
2001-08-17 15:00 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
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2001-08-21 2:14 ` [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2) Andi Kleen
2001-08-21 3:02 ` Paul Jakma
2001-08-21 3:12 ` Andi Kleen
2001-08-21 3:16 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-21 13:34 ` Paul Jakma
2001-08-21 18:38 ` David Wagner
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