From: daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2)
Date: 21 Aug 2001 18:38:33 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9lu9r9$n5v$9@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B80EADC.234B39F0@evision-ventures.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <20010820211107.A20957@thunk.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <200108210136.f7L1aa008756@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <oupk7zyqhw3.fsf@pigdrop.muc.suse.de>
Andi Kleen wrote:
>It is not that they are hard to fix; e.g. a $10 sound card
>with a noise generating circuit on input and a small daemon to feed
>/dev/audio to /dev/random can do it; [...]
This is a good idea, but do note that you have to be a little careful:
there are lots of ways that the result can look random enough to fool
/dev/random's entropy count but be non-random enough to provide much
less entropy than you'd otherwise expect (e.g., 60Hz effects, etc.).
I think it's a workable approach, and I warmly recommend using a broad
diversity of entropy sources (including, e.g., soundcards), but you just
have to be careful to avoid some of the pitfalls.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-21 18:43 UTC|newest]
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2001-08-21 2:14 ` [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2) Andi Kleen
2001-08-21 3:02 ` Paul Jakma
2001-08-21 3:12 ` Andi Kleen
2001-08-21 3:16 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-21 13:34 ` Paul Jakma
2001-08-21 18:38 ` David Wagner [this message]
2001-08-16 17:02 [PATCH] Optionally let Net Devices feed Entropy Francois Romieu
2001-08-16 19:28 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-16 20:19 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-17 0:47 ` Robert Love
2001-08-17 22:56 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-18 5:57 ` Robert Love
2001-08-18 17:44 ` [PATCH] let Net Devices feed Entropy, updated (1/2) Robert Love
2001-08-18 23:41 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 0:38 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-19 3:33 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 3:49 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 7:17 ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2001-08-19 18:46 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-19 3:12 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 3:36 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 3:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-19 3:57 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 3:56 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 14:43 ` lists
2001-08-19 21:34 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 17:08 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 18:02 ` David Madore
2001-08-19 23:47 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-19 21:19 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:24 ` David Ford
2001-08-20 10:02 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-20 10:34 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-20 10:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-20 13:07 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-20 13:57 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 14:25 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-21 1:11 ` Theodore Tso
2001-08-21 1:36 ` Richard Gooch
2001-08-21 9:43 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-08-21 9:59 ` Johan Adolfsson
2001-08-21 17:19 ` Richard Gooch
2001-08-21 18:33 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 4:33 ` Robert Love
2001-08-20 16:15 ` Robert Love
2001-08-20 16:36 ` Robert Love
2001-08-22 6:10 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-08-22 6:26 ` Robert Love
2001-08-22 17:27 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-08-22 8:54 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-22 13:47 ` Chris Friesen
2001-08-19 20:58 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-19 22:19 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-19 22:29 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 2:26 ` Mike Castle
2001-08-20 23:08 ` Tom Rini
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