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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	fbdev <linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Hotplug blacklist and video devices
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:56:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e47339105021907561c4f408c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1D2TjV-0007r9-00@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:29:13 +0000, Matthew Garrett
<mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > For example I'm looking at making changes to DRM such that DRM will
> > require the corresponding framebuffer driver to be loaded. If you back
> > up further this is part of fixing X so that it won't mess with the
> > hardware from user space. Mode setting would come from the framebuffer
> > driver instead of the X 2D XAA driver.
> 
> Please don't until all the framebuffer drivers are able to deal with
> suspend and resume (which will also require some mechanism to switch
> backlights back on). Currently, it's far easier to restore some amount
> of state on a standard VGA or VESA mode. There's no real support for
> doing so with most accelerated framebuffers.

I didn't say make framebuffer depend on DRM, you can still unload DRM
before suspend.  It's the other way around DRM needs framebuffer.
Suspend/resume are part of this. In the current model there is no way
for the DRM driver to see the suspend/resume events. I haven't tried
it but I suspect a suspend/resume with DRM running has a bad outcome
right now.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com


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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	fbdev <linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Hotplug blacklist and video devices
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:56:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e47339105021907561c4f408c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1D2TjV-0007r9-00@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:29:13 +0000, Matthew Garrett
<mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > For example I'm looking at making changes to DRM such that DRM will
> > require the corresponding framebuffer driver to be loaded. If you back
> > up further this is part of fixing X so that it won't mess with the
> > hardware from user space. Mode setting would come from the framebuffer
> > driver instead of the X 2D XAA driver.
> 
> Please don't until all the framebuffer drivers are able to deal with
> suspend and resume (which will also require some mechanism to switch
> backlights back on). Currently, it's far easier to restore some amount
> of state on a standard VGA or VESA mode. There's no real support for
> doing so with most accelerated framebuffers.

I didn't say make framebuffer depend on DRM, you can still unload DRM
before suspend.  It's the other way around DRM needs framebuffer.
Suspend/resume are part of this. In the current model there is no way
for the DRM driver to see the suspend/resume events. I haven't tried
it but I suspect a suspend/resume with DRM running has a bad outcome
right now.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-19 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-18 20:51 Hotplug blacklist and video devices Jon Smirl
2005-02-18 21:08 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-02-18 21:14   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-18 21:14     ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-18 22:58     ` Michel Dänzer
2005-02-18 22:58       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Michel Dänzer
2005-02-18 23:35       ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-18 23:35         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2005-02-19 12:29     ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-19 15:56       ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2005-02-19 15:56         ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-19 16:51         ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-19 19:54         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2005-02-21 19:08     ` Bill Nottingham

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