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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Simmons <jsimmons@pentafluge.infradead.org>,
	Michal Januszewski <spock@gentoo.org>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@hotpop.com>
Subject: Re: [announce 0/7] fbsplash - The Framebuffer Splash
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:13:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e473391050311101356536667@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0503111801550.10827@pentafluge.infradead.org>

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:03:20 +0000 (GMT), James Simmons
<jsimmons@www.infradead.org> wrote:
> > > > Thats why moving the eye candy console into user space is such a good
> > > > idea. You don't have to run it 8) It also means that the console
> > > > development is accessible to all the crazy rasterman types.
> > >
> > > Yep. The basic console we already have. Everyone who wants eye candy can switch
> > > from basic console to user space console in early userspace.
> > >
> >
> > Heh, I'm afraid it does not work like that. Anyone who wants eye-candy
> > simply applies broken patch to their kernel... unless their distribution applied one
> > already.
> >
> > Situation where we have one working eye-candy patch would certainly
> > be an improvement.
> 
> Why do we need patches in the kernel. Just set you config to
> CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE, CONFIG_FB, CONFIG_INPUT and don't set fbcon or
> vgacon. Then have a userspace app using /dev/fb and /dev/input create a
> userland console. There is no need to do special hacks in the kernel.

/dev/fb is not accelerated, if you want full acceleration use
/dev/dri. Using /dev/dri you can write a fully composited console that
displays dengavi in realtime. This is also a path to getting multiuser
working without a lot of kernel patches.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com


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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Simmons <jsimmons@pentafluge.infradead.org>,
	Michal Januszewski <spock@gentoo.org>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@hotpop.com>
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] [announce 0/7] fbsplash - The Framebuffer Splash
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:13:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e473391050311101356536667@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0503111801550.10827@pentafluge.infradead.org>

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:03:20 +0000 (GMT), James Simmons
<jsimmons@www.infradead.org> wrote:
> > > > Thats why moving the eye candy console into user space is such a good
> > > > idea. You don't have to run it 8) It also means that the console
> > > > development is accessible to all the crazy rasterman types.
> > >
> > > Yep. The basic console we already have. Everyone who wants eye candy can switch
> > > from basic console to user space console in early userspace.
> > >
> >
> > Heh, I'm afraid it does not work like that. Anyone who wants eye-candy
> > simply applies broken patch to their kernel... unless their distribution applied one
> > already.
> >
> > Situation where we have one working eye-candy patch would certainly
> > be an improvement.
> 
> Why do we need patches in the kernel. Just set you config to
> CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE, CONFIG_FB, CONFIG_INPUT and don't set fbcon or
> vgacon. Then have a userspace app using /dev/fb and /dev/input create a
> userland console. There is no need to do special hacks in the kernel.

/dev/fb is not accelerated, if you want full acceleration use
/dev/dri. Using /dev/dri you can write a fully composited console that
displays dengavi in realtime. This is also a path to getting multiuser
working without a lot of kernel patches.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-11 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-08  1:57 [announce 0/7] fbsplash - The Framebuffer Splash Michal Januszewski
2005-03-08  1:57 ` Michal Januszewski
2005-03-08 19:46 ` James Simmons
2005-03-08 19:46   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2005-03-08 20:52   ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-08 20:52     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2005-03-08 22:27     ` James Simmons
2005-03-08 22:27       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2005-03-09 11:38   ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-09 22:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-10  3:29       ` Sebastian Kügler
2005-03-09  5:01 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2005-03-09  5:01   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2005-03-09  6:02   ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-09  6:02     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2005-03-09  9:34     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-09  9:34       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-09 18:16       ` Alan Cox
2005-03-09 20:33         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-09 20:33           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-09 20:45         ` James Simmons
2005-03-09 20:45           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2005-03-09 22:40           ` Alan Cox
2005-03-10  9:12             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-10  9:12               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-10 14:54               ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-10 14:54                 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2005-03-11 18:03                 ` James Simmons
2005-03-11 18:13                   ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2005-03-11 18:13                     ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 18:58                     ` James Simmons
2005-03-15 18:58                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2005-03-15 19:03                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 19:03                         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 19:22                         ` James Simmons
2005-03-15 19:22                           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2005-03-15 20:39                       ` Lee Revell
2005-03-13 18:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-13 18:53                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-13 18:53                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-13 19:24                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 19:24                         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 19:34                   ` Elladan

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