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From: 李志 <lizhi2@eswincomputing.com>
To: "Conor Dooley" <conor@kernel.org>, krzk+dt@kernel.org
Cc: "Bo Gan" <ganboing@gmail.com>, "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, robh@kernel.org,
	conor+dt@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com,
	rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk, wens@kernel.org, pjw@kernel.org,
	palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, alex@ghiti.fr,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ningyu@eswincomputing.com,
	linmin@eswincomputing.com, pinkesh.vaghela@einfochips.com,
	pritesh.patel@einfochips.com, weishangjuan@eswincomputing.com
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 10:52:38 +0800 (GMT+08:00)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9eaad6e.4df8.19cbbe95b3c.Coremail.lizhi2@eswincomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260304-capable-setback-908ba5b5c858@spud>




> -----原始邮件-----
> 发件人: "Conor Dooley" <conor@kernel.org>
> 发送时间:2026-03-04 17:30:57 (星期三)
> 收件人: "Bo Gan" <ganboing@gmail.com>
> 抄送: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>, lizhi2@eswincomputing.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com, rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk, wens@kernel.org, pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, alex@ghiti.fr, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ningyu@eswincomputing.com, linmin@eswincomputing.com, pinkesh.vaghela@einfochips.com, pritesh.patel@einfochips.com, weishangjuan@eswincomputing.com
> 主题: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control
> 
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 05:23:18PM -0800, Bo Gan wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > On 3/3/26 16:47, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 04:38:46PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > On Tue,  3 Mar 2026 14:16:37 +0800 lizhi2@eswincomputing.com wrote:
> > > > > There are currently no in-tree users of the EIC7700 Ethernet driver, so
> > > > > these changes are safe.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you mean by this sentence? The commit under Fixes was part of
> > > > Linux v6.19 already.
> > > 
> > > The "funny" thing is that caring about users doesn't even really matter
> > > on the devicetree patch, except for this hunk:
> > > |@@ -81,7 +99,9 @@ properties:
> > > |                          or external clock selection
> > > |           - description: Offset of AXI clock controller Low-Power request
> > > |                          register
> > > |+          - description: Offset of register controlling TXD delay
> > > |           - description: Offset of register controlling TX/RX clock delay
> > > |+          - description: Offset of register controlling RXD delay
> > > |
> > > | required:
> > > |   - compatible
> > > And it only matters here because an item is injected mid-list. If this
> > > was moved to the end with the RXD delay, the **dt-binding** changes
> > > don't have issues with safety. I've not looked at whether there are
> > > knock-on concerns about users in the driver or whatever yet, but from a
> > > binding POV only that hunk can break something that currently works.
> > 
> > This was already discussed here in v1:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/e7183ae1-8b8b-4e77-9f4e-3bc1b4b63556@lunn.ch/
> > 
> > The device-tree is not checked in yet by ESWIN folks, so there's currently
> > no user of the dt-binding. No need to worry about backward compat.
> 
> The binding and driver exist, there doesn't need to be a dts in tree for
> there to be potential users. If the break was important I might not
> care, but this seems to be a gratuitous break, since the new items could
> be added to the end of the list and compatibility maintained without
> incurring any more difficulty for you.

Hi Conor and Krzysztof,

Thanks for the reviews.

- The next patch will fix the property order to avoid any breakage
  with existing DT bindings.

- Eth1 does have a timing issue in silicon, as discussed here:
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/32a1f814.2c79.19bfe173225.Coremail.linmin@eswincomputing.com/

  Based on this, and according to the advice from Andrew
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/59cec617-0189-4dc3-bc3f-6346155a62ae@lunn.ch/
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/bd202cfa-d6eb-4d0e-982d-b49795dd25f7@lunn.ch/
  adding a DT property is not a reasonable approach.
  
  In the next patch, I will improve the description/paragraph and properly
  document the timing issues.
  
  Do you think this is okay?

Best regards,
Zhi Li

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From: 李志 <lizhi2@eswincomputing.com>
To: "Conor Dooley" <conor@kernel.org>, krzk+dt@kernel.org
Cc: "Bo Gan" <ganboing@gmail.com>, "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, robh@kernel.org,
	conor+dt@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com,
	rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk, wens@kernel.org, pjw@kernel.org,
	palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, alex@ghiti.fr,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ningyu@eswincomputing.com,
	linmin@eswincomputing.com, pinkesh.vaghela@einfochips.com,
	pritesh.patel@einfochips.com, weishangjuan@eswincomputing.com
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 10:52:38 +0800 (GMT+08:00)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9eaad6e.4df8.19cbbe95b3c.Coremail.lizhi2@eswincomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260304-capable-setback-908ba5b5c858@spud>




> -----原始邮件-----
> 发件人: "Conor Dooley" <conor@kernel.org>
> 发送时间:2026-03-04 17:30:57 (星期三)
> 收件人: "Bo Gan" <ganboing@gmail.com>
> 抄送: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>, lizhi2@eswincomputing.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com, rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk, wens@kernel.org, pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, alex@ghiti.fr, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ningyu@eswincomputing.com, linmin@eswincomputing.com, pinkesh.vaghela@einfochips.com, pritesh.patel@einfochips.com, weishangjuan@eswincomputing.com
> 主题: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control
> 
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 05:23:18PM -0800, Bo Gan wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > On 3/3/26 16:47, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 04:38:46PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > On Tue,  3 Mar 2026 14:16:37 +0800 lizhi2@eswincomputing.com wrote:
> > > > > There are currently no in-tree users of the EIC7700 Ethernet driver, so
> > > > > these changes are safe.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you mean by this sentence? The commit under Fixes was part of
> > > > Linux v6.19 already.
> > > 
> > > The "funny" thing is that caring about users doesn't even really matter
> > > on the devicetree patch, except for this hunk:
> > > |@@ -81,7 +99,9 @@ properties:
> > > |                          or external clock selection
> > > |           - description: Offset of AXI clock controller Low-Power request
> > > |                          register
> > > |+          - description: Offset of register controlling TXD delay
> > > |           - description: Offset of register controlling TX/RX clock delay
> > > |+          - description: Offset of register controlling RXD delay
> > > |
> > > | required:
> > > |   - compatible
> > > And it only matters here because an item is injected mid-list. If this
> > > was moved to the end with the RXD delay, the **dt-binding** changes
> > > don't have issues with safety. I've not looked at whether there are
> > > knock-on concerns about users in the driver or whatever yet, but from a
> > > binding POV only that hunk can break something that currently works.
> > 
> > This was already discussed here in v1:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/e7183ae1-8b8b-4e77-9f4e-3bc1b4b63556@lunn.ch/
> > 
> > The device-tree is not checked in yet by ESWIN folks, so there's currently
> > no user of the dt-binding. No need to worry about backward compat.
> 
> The binding and driver exist, there doesn't need to be a dts in tree for
> there to be potential users. If the break was important I might not
> care, but this seems to be a gratuitous break, since the new items could
> be added to the end of the list and compatibility maintained without
> incurring any more difficulty for you.

Hi Conor and Krzysztof,

Thanks for the reviews.

- The next patch will fix the property order to avoid any breakage
  with existing DT bindings.

- Eth1 does have a timing issue in silicon, as discussed here:
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/32a1f814.2c79.19bfe173225.Coremail.linmin@eswincomputing.com/

  Based on this, and according to the advice from Andrew
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/59cec617-0189-4dc3-bc3f-6346155a62ae@lunn.ch/
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/bd202cfa-d6eb-4d0e-982d-b49795dd25f7@lunn.ch/
  adding a DT property is not a reasonable approach.
  
  In the next patch, I will improve the description/paragraph and properly
  document the timing issues.
  
  Do you think this is okay?

Best regards,
Zhi Li
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-05  2:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-03  6:15 [PATCH net-next v3 0/3] net: stmmac: eic7700: fix EIC7700 eth1 RX sampling timing lizhi2
2026-03-03  6:15 ` lizhi2
2026-03-03  6:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control lizhi2
2026-03-03  6:16   ` lizhi2
2026-03-04  0:38   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-04  0:38     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-04  0:47     ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04  0:47       ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04  1:23       ` Bo Gan
2026-03-04  1:23         ` Bo Gan
2026-03-04  7:39         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-04  7:39           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-04  9:30         ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04  9:30           ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-05  2:52           ` 李志 [this message]
2026-03-05  2:52             ` 李志
2026-03-05 18:42             ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-05 18:42               ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04  7:44   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-04  7:44     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-04  8:22     ` Bo Gan
2026-03-04  8:22       ` Bo Gan
2026-03-03  6:17 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/3] net: stmmac: eic7700: enable clocks before syscon access and correct RX sampling timing lizhi2
2026-03-03  6:17   ` lizhi2
2026-03-04  0:39   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-04  0:39     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-05  7:11   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-05  7:11     ` kernel test robot
2026-03-05  8:10   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-05  8:10     ` kernel test robot
2026-03-03  6:17 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/3] riscv: dts: eswin: eic7700-hifive-premier-p550: enable Ethernet controller lizhi2
2026-03-03  6:17   ` lizhi2
2026-03-03 10:32   ` Yao Zi
2026-03-03 10:32     ` Yao Zi
2026-03-10  7:15     ` 李志
2026-03-10  7:15       ` 李志

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