From: daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/random in 2.4.6
Date: 19 Aug 2001 17:27:51 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9losun$pmg$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1010815111856.28263A-100000@chaos.analogic.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108151622570.2107-100000@sorbus.navaho>
Steve Hill wrote:
>Hmm... Well, ATM I've kludged a fix by using /dev/urandom instead, but
>it's not ideal because it's being used to generate cryptographic keys, and
>urandom isn't cryptographically secure.
I think you may want to check again. /dev/urandom *is* cryptographically
secure, and should be fine to use for generating crypto keys [1].
This seems to be a common point of confusion.
[1] Well, if SHA isn't secure, then /dev/urandom might not be any good.
But if SHA isn't secure, then the rest of your crypto might not be
any good either, so you might as well trust /dev/urandom.
There *is* a subtle difference between the two. When you want
forward secrecy, /dev/urandom might be insufficient: If your machine
is broken into, an attacker can learn the state of the pool, and
then if you kick off the attacker without rebooting or refreshing
the /dev/urandom pool, the attacker might be able to predict your
crypto keys for some time after he's lost access to your machine.
However, I would imagine that in many settings this may not be a
major concern, and it is easily remedied by rebooting or by
otherwise re-seeding the /dev/urandom pool.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-19 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-08-15 15:07 /dev/random in 2.4.6 Steve Hill
2001-08-15 15:21 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-15 15:27 ` Steve Hill
2001-08-15 15:42 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-15 16:29 ` Tim Walberg
2001-08-15 17:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-16 8:37 ` Steve Hill
2001-08-16 19:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-16 19:35 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-16 20:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-17 0:49 ` Robert Love
2001-08-17 1:05 ` Robert Love
2001-08-19 17:29 ` David Wagner
2001-08-17 21:18 ` Theodore Tso
2001-08-17 22:05 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-19 15:13 ` Theodore Tso
2001-08-19 15:33 ` Rob Radez
2001-08-19 17:32 ` David Wagner
2001-08-19 23:32 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-20 7:40 ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-20 14:01 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-20 13:37 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 14:12 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-20 14:40 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-20 14:55 ` Chris Friesen
2001-08-20 15:22 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-20 15:25 ` Doug McNaught
2001-08-20 15:42 ` Chris Friesen
2001-08-21 10:03 ` Steve Hill
2001-08-21 18:14 ` David Wagner
2001-08-20 16:01 ` David Wagner
2001-08-20 19:30 ` Gérard Roudier
2001-08-20 15:07 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-21 8:33 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 16:13 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-21 17:44 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 18:24 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 18:49 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 19:04 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-21 19:20 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 21:44 ` Robert Love
2001-08-21 18:19 ` David Wagner
2001-08-20 16:00 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 1:20 ` Theodore Tso
2001-08-21 8:39 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 10:46 ` Marco Colombo
2001-08-21 12:40 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 17:06 ` cfs+linux-kernel
2001-08-21 17:48 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-21 18:27 ` David Wagner
2001-08-21 18:25 ` David Wagner
2001-08-20 22:55 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-21 1:06 ` David Schwartz
2001-08-19 17:31 ` David Wagner
2001-08-19 17:27 ` David Wagner [this message]
2001-08-15 19:25 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-15 20:55 ` Robert Love
2001-08-15 21:27 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-08-16 8:55 ` Steve Hill
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