From: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>
To: Olivier Hanesse <olivier.hanesse@gmail.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Xen Users <xen-users@lists.xensource.com>,
Mark Adams <mark@campbell-lange.net>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4 TSC problems
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:52:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C98C2113.13CA9%keir.xen@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikEcZrQ2TbPDH5WEbF4_WGfsSJ7vhhgMhT1LGW_@mail.gmail.com>
On 24/02/2011 14:20, "Olivier Hanesse" <olivier.hanesse@gmail.com> wrote:
> Both dom0 and domUs are affected by this" jump".
>
> I expect to see something like "TSC marked as reliable, warp = 0".
> I got this on newer hardware with same config/distros.
It depends on the CPU itself, older CPUs do not have the super-stable TSC
features. But that should never cause a massive 3000s time jump.
> Is there a way to measure if it is a TSC warp ? to point out a cpu tsc issue ?
The TSC warps or out-of-sync issues that we could reasonably expect would be
on the order of microseconds. A 3000s warp is something else entirely. Xen
is very confused and/or some TSC or platform timer has jumped a long way
(indicating a hardware/firmware issue).
-- Keir
>
> 2011/2/24 Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
>>>>> On 24.02.11 at 12:57, Olivier Hanesse <olivier.hanesse@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I tried to turn off cstates with max_cstate=0 without success (still "not
>>> reliable").
>>>
>>> With cpuidle=0, I also got :
>>>
>>> (XEN) TSC has constant rate, deep Cstates possible, so not reliable,
>>> warp=3022 (count=1)
>>
>> This message by itself isn't telling much I believe.
>>
>>> xm info | grep command
>>> xen_commandline : dom0_mem=512M cpuidle=0 loglvl=all guest_loglvl=all
>>> dom0_max_vcpus=1 dom0_vcpus_pin console=vga,com1 com1=19200,8n1
>>>
>>> Keir :
>>>
>>> Using clocksource=pit :
>>>
>>> (XEN) Platform timer is 1.193MHz PIT
>>>
>>> I also got :
>>>
>>> (XEN) TSC has constant rate, deep Cstates possible, so not reliable,
>>> warp=3262 (count=2)
>>
>> The question is whether any of this eliminates the time jumps seen
>> by your DomU-s (from your past mails I wasn't actually sure whether
>> Dom0 also experienced this problem, albeit it would be odd if it didn't).
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> Jan
>>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-24 14:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-23 10:49 Xen 4 TSC problems Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-23 16:16 ` [Xen-devel] " Dan Magenheimer
2011-02-23 17:19 ` Keir Fraser
2011-02-23 19:04 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 7:16 ` Keir Fraser
2011-02-24 9:59 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 10:59 ` Jan Beulich
2011-02-24 11:30 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2011-02-24 11:57 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 12:37 ` Jan Beulich
2011-02-24 14:20 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 14:52 ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2011-02-24 17:43 ` [Xen-devel] " Dan Magenheimer
2011-02-24 17:58 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 19:01 ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-02-28 14:37 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-28 15:00 ` Keir Fraser
2011-02-28 15:14 ` [Xen-devel] " Dan Magenheimer
2011-02-28 15:23 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-28 15:30 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-02-28 15:54 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-04-15 7:51 ` andre.arnold
2011-04-15 16:31 ` Olivier Hanesse
2012-09-27 15:54 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-27 19:27 ` [Xen-users] " Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-27 21:28 ` Olivier Hanesse
2012-09-27 21:42 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-29 8:08 ` [Xen-users] " Olivier Hanesse
2012-09-29 9:41 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-29 12:19 ` Mauro
2012-09-30 15:13 ` [Xen-users] " Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-09-30 19:23 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-30 20:19 ` Mauro
2012-10-15 7:39 ` [Xen-users] " Olivier Hanesse
2012-10-15 8:05 ` Philippe.Simonet
2012-10-15 9:39 ` Mauro
2012-10-15 10:32 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-15 11:24 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-15 12:49 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-15 14:25 ` Mauro
2012-10-17 16:15 ` Keir Fraser
2012-10-18 7:40 ` Ian Campbell
2012-10-18 7:55 ` Keir Fraser
2012-10-18 8:33 ` Ian Campbell
2012-10-18 8:56 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-18 9:36 ` [Xen-users] " Ian Campbell
2012-10-18 13:45 ` Philippe.Simonet
2012-10-18 16:43 ` Keir Fraser
2012-10-21 20:52 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-22 6:54 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-22 9:17 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-22 9:27 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-22 10:40 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-22 12:06 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 7:19 ` Mauro
[not found] ` <CAE17a0VU3H8UmUWZv1+t98ME8LFgCZAWWBC1nhzM=ecbu6_GaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-23 7:58 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 8:40 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 8:50 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 11:50 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-23 14:07 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 14:43 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 14:46 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 15:34 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 15:49 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-01 11:39 ` Zary Matej
2011-02-28 15:39 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2012-09-29 15:13 ` Mauro
2011-09-13 7:16 ` Philippe Simonet
2011-09-15 8:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-09-15 8:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-09-15 16:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-09-16 6:03 ` Philippe.Simonet
2011-09-16 22:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-09-19 5:45 ` Philippe Simonet
2011-09-15 10:36 ` George Dunlap
2011-09-15 18:38 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-09-19 10:39 ` George Dunlap
2011-09-22 12:07 ` Jan Beulich
2011-09-30 6:33 ` Philippe.Simonet
2011-09-30 9:36 ` tommics
2011-09-30 17:16 ` Dan Magenheimer
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