From: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
"winston.l.wang" <winston.l.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: don't write_tsc() non-zero values on CPUs updating only the lower 32 bits
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:18:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C9CC7A6A.16558%keir.xen@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DA6C735020000780003B8C0@vpn.id2.novell.com>
On 14/04/2011 09:06, "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@novell.com> wrote:
>> For physically-added CPUs only. Kind of unavoidable, that one: we can only
>> try to do our best in that case. And let's face it, that probably affects
>> exactly zero production users of Xen/x86 right now.
>
> That latter part I agree to.
>
> But what are you afraid of? Probing the TSC write shouldn't do any
> harm.
You will end up with a BSP TSC value different than what it would have been
if you had not probed. Since you write back a (slightly) stale TSC value.
Which would increase cross-CPU TSC skew if the platform has done a good sync
job at power-on.
Now, do I personally think this much matters? Not really, since I believe
that direct guest TSC access is a huge non-issue. But it is something that
Dan disagreed on, he did a bunch of work on time management, and the code
as-is does try quite hard to avoid writing TSC if at all possible. I don't
think it's a good idea to change this without feedback from Dan, at least.
> Additionally, did you read the comment immediately preceding
> the probing code? AMD doesn't guarantee the TSC to be writable at
> all.
>
>>> cstate_restore_tsc() also has no such gating afaics.
>>
>> It is gated on NONSTOP_TSC which is implied by TSC_RELIABLE.
>
> Ah, yes. But (I think) not architecturally, only by virtue of how
> code is currently structured. If that changes, we'd be back at a
> latent (and quite non-obvious) bug.
Yeah, if we want to continue to try avoiding write_tsc() on TSC_RELIABLE
then we should assert !TSC_RELIABLE on the write_tsc() path in
cstate_tsc_restore().
-- Keir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-14 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-14 7:18 [PATCH] x86: don't write_tsc() non-zero values on CPUs updating only the lower 32 bits Jan Beulich
2011-04-14 7:25 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-14 7:42 ` Jan Beulich
2011-04-14 7:50 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-14 8:06 ` Jan Beulich
2011-04-14 9:18 ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2011-04-14 22:41 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-04-15 6:40 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-15 14:34 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-04-15 17:28 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-14 7:28 ` Jan Beulich
2011-04-14 16:05 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-14 16:28 ` Jan Beulich
2011-04-14 16:48 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-14 18:33 ` Wang, Winston L
2011-04-14 21:06 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-14 21:37 ` Wang, Winston L
2011-04-15 7:06 ` Jan Beulich
2011-04-15 7:08 ` Jan Beulich
2011-04-15 7:37 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-15 14:49 ` Wang, Winston L
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