From: "Ghanshyam Thakkar" <shyamthakkar001@gmail.com>
To: "Josh Steadmon" <steadmon@google.com>,
"Ghanshyam Thakkar" <shyamthakkar001@gmail.com>,
"René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>, "Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk>,
"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] t-strbuf: use TEST_RUN
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2024 03:29:11 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D2KHTOXCNFOI.Y1UIN4IT8APB@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tswyfparvchgi7qxrjxbx4eb7cohypzekjqzbnkbffsesaiazs@vtewtz7o6twi>
Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com> wrote:
> On 2024.07.02 22:59, Ghanshyam Thakkar wrote:
> > Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com> wrote:
> > > I think this commit in particular shows how TEST_RUN() is more
> > > convenient than TEST(). (Although, arguably we shouldn't have allowed
> > > the setup() + callback situation to start with.)
> >
> > Could you expand a bit on why the setup() + callback thing shouldn't be
> > allowed? I think it is a nice way of avoiding boilerplate and having
> > independent state.
>
> It's a matter of taste rather than strict principles, I suppose, but I
> think that test cases should focus on being readable rather than
> avoiding duplication. Production code can follow a Don't Repeat Yourself
> philosophy, but when a test breaks, it's better to be able to look at
> only the failing test and quickly see what's wrong, rather than having
> to work out which functions call which callbacks and what gets verified
> where. Also, since we don't have tests for our tests, it's important
> that the tests are easy for people to manually verify them.
Makes sense. But the manner in which callbacks are used in these tests,
which usually only initialize a certain datastructure and then release them at
the end, I fail to see them as more harder to manually verify. But it is
very easy to stretch the line and perhaps do more than initialization in
the setup(), so I can see how disallowing them would get rid of the need of
judging every time wether they are readable or not. Maybe a 'best
practices' document would help in that regard?
> I also agree with René's point about the test cases matching real-world
> API usage.
>
> I do agree that having separate functions improves isolation, but
> hopefully we can encourage test authors to define local variables in
> their TEST_RUN blocks.
Makes sense.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-08 21:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-29 15:33 [PATCH 0/6] unit-tests: add and use TEST_RUN to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:35 ` [PATCH 1/6] t0080: move expected output to a file René Scharfe
2024-07-01 3:20 ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 19:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-01 22:10 ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 23:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-02 0:57 ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 19:51 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-01 22:18 ` Jeff King
2024-06-29 15:43 ` [PATCH 2/6] unit-tests: add TEST_RUN René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:13 ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 15:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-02 20:55 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 20:55 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-05 9:42 ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-05 18:01 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-07 7:20 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-08 15:18 ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-08 15:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 15:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 13:27 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-13 15:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 15:12 ` phillip.wood123
2024-06-29 15:44 ` [PATCH 3/6] t-ctype: use TEST_RUN René Scharfe
2024-07-01 19:49 ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-01 20:04 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14 ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55 ` René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:45 ` [PATCH 4/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14 ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55 ` René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:47 ` [PATCH 6/6] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-01 19:58 ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-01 20:18 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14 ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-04 13:09 ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-10 13:55 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-14 11:44 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-15 14:46 ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-02 17:29 ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-02 20:55 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-03 3:42 ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-08 18:11 ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-08 21:59 ` Ghanshyam Thakkar [this message]
2024-07-01 19:59 ` [PATCH 0/6] unit-tests: add and use TEST_RUN to simplify tests Josh Steadmon
2024-07-10 22:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 10:05 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-11 15:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-14 10:35 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-21 6:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] unit-tests: add and use for_test " René Scharfe
2024-07-21 6:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] t0080: move expected output to a file René Scharfe
2024-07-23 20:54 ` Jeff King
2024-07-21 6:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] unit-tests: add for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-22 19:13 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-22 19:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-22 20:31 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-22 20:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-22 22:47 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-23 12:37 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 6:02 ` [PATCH v2] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:25 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-22 22:41 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] unit-tests: add for_test Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-23 7:18 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 6:36 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23 9:25 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 9:53 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23 12:37 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:00 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23 13:23 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-23 13:58 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:24 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-25 9:45 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-30 14:00 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-21 6:22 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] t-ctype: use for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-21 6:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-21 6:24 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-21 6:26 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:23 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-24 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] add and use for_test to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:48 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] t0080: use here-doc test body René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:51 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] unit-tests: add for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-24 19:24 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-25 9:45 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-25 16:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-25 21:31 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-26 2:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-26 12:56 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-26 15:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-29 9:48 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-29 18:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-30 4:49 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-30 14:00 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-31 5:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-31 16:48 ` René Scharfe
2024-08-01 6:51 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-24 14:52 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] t-ctype: use for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:54 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:54 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:55 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:03 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] add and use if_test to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:05 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] t0080: use here-doc test body René Scharfe
2024-07-31 20:52 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-30 14:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-31 21:03 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-08-01 7:23 ` René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:08 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] unit-tests: add if_test René Scharfe
2024-07-31 22:04 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-08-01 7:32 ` René Scharfe
2024-08-02 0:48 ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-30 14:10 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] t-ctype: use if_test René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:10 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:12 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
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