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From: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>
To: Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Cc: "tamas.lengyel@zentific.com" <tamas.lengyel@zentific.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	"committers@xenproject.org" <committers@xenproject.org>,
	Oleksandr Andrushchenko <oleksandr_andrushchenko@epam.com>
Subject: Re: [For 4.9] Updating https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Release_Features to reflect support status of new features
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 10:41:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D577F477.38A4A%lars.kurth@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ab494eb-3eae-fae3-f220-47876de0b617@bitdefender.com>

Removed security@ to avoid creating unnecessary RT tickets. Please respond
to this mail. I suppose on this specific topic, Tamas and Andy Cooper
should voice an opinion also
Regards
Lars

On 27/06/2017, 10:48, "Razvan Cojocaru" <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>> - Security > Alternative 2pm : Supported – I think we should split this
>> out – it is currently implicitly covered under "Virtual Machine
>> Introspection"
>
>I agree that altp2m deserves its own space. While we're interested in
>it, our current solution makes no use of it, so it's certainly possible
>to do introspection without any help from altp2m.
>
>From my, albeit limited, experience, altp2m probably fits under "Tech
>preview".
>
>If we subtract altp2m from the general "Virtual Machine Introspection"
>category, I'd say that the upstream support is between "Tech Preview"
>and "Supported". I'll explain.
>
>The interface is largely stable, but we may need to add optimizations
>which might change it - so while we don't want this to be happening a
>lot, it will happen.
>
>There's also functional stability with the XenServer patches (which
>bypass the emulator (single-step) when it can't emulate, and has a
>version of the old smp_lock() emulator race-condition patch).
>Unfortunately, upstream Xen still has race condition issues when
>emulating LOCKed instructions in SMP scenarios - this will be addressed
>ASAP with a proper CMPXCHG patch that currently depends on a patch from
>Andrew and will require rework of a patch from Jan that adds a specific
>emulation return code for CMPXCHG failures.
>
>There's also an issue with #UD injections which is covered by the
>emulator bypass patch in XenServer but can cause IPIs to get lost with
>the upstream code - that will also require some more thinking.
>
>So there are still (emulation-related) quirks upstream. We'd very much
>like to get them ironed out.
>
>I hope this answers the question.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Razvan

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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-27  8:53 [For 4.9] Updating https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Release_Features to reflect support status of new features Lars Kurth
2017-06-27  9:48 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2017-06-27 10:41   ` Lars Kurth [this message]
2017-06-27 17:47   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2017-06-27 10:33 ` George Dunlap
2017-06-27 10:54   ` Lars Kurth
2017-06-27 10:57   ` Juergen Groß
2017-06-27 11:04     ` Lars Kurth
2017-06-27 15:23       ` Wei Liu
2017-06-27 15:44       ` Dario Faggioli
2017-06-27 11:02 ` George Dunlap
2017-06-27 11:06   ` Lars Kurth
2017-06-27 13:25 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2017-06-27 13:28 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2017-06-27 13:30   ` Lars Kurth
2017-06-27 13:32     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2017-06-27 16:00 ` Julien Grall
2017-06-27 16:16 ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-27 21:02   ` Lars Kurth
2017-08-17 14:48 ` Julien Grall
2017-08-17 14:51   ` Lars Kurth

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