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From: "Alejandro Vallejo" <alejandro.vallejo@cloud.com>
To: "Daniel P. Smith" <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>,
	"Stewart Hildebrand" <stewart.hildebrand@amd.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/3] xen/pci: introduce PF<->VF links
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 11:45:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D5DDABNKHN42.1HD2T6NV99J51@cloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a40185b1-7c1b-4a57-91fb-e439a4c896f0@apertussolutions.com>

On Sat Nov 2, 2024 at 3:18 PM GMT, Daniel P. Smith wrote:
> On 11/1/24 16:16, Stewart Hildebrand wrote:
> > +Daniel (XSM mention)
> > 
> > On 10/28/24 13:02, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> On 18.10.2024 22:39, Stewart Hildebrand wrote:
> >>> Add links between a VF's struct pci_dev and its associated PF struct
> >>> pci_dev. Move the calls to pci_get_pdev()/pci_add_device() down to avoid
> >>> dropping and re-acquiring the pcidevs_lock().
> >>>
> >>> During PF removal, unlink VF from PF and mark the VF broken. As before,
> >>> VFs may exist without a corresponding PF, although now only with
> >>> pdev->broken = true.
> >>>
> >>> The hardware domain is expected to remove the associated VFs before
> >>> removing the PF. Print a warning in case a PF is removed with associated
> >>> VFs still present.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Stewart Hildebrand <stewart.hildebrand@amd.com>
> >>> ---
> >>> Candidate for backport to 4.19 (the next patch depends on this one)
> >>>
> >>> v5->v6:
> >>> * move printk() before ASSERT_UNREACHABLE()
> >>> * warn about PF removal with VFs still present
> >>
> >> Hmm, maybe I didn't make this clear enough when commenting on v5: I wasn't
> >> just after an adjustment to the commit message. I'm instead actively
> >> concerned of the resulting behavior. Question is whether we can reasonably
> >> do something about that.
> >>
> >> Jan
> > 
> > Right. My suggestion then is to go back to roughly how it was done in
> > v4 [0]:
> > 
> > * Remove the VFs right away during PF removal, so that we don't end up
> > with stale VFs. Regarding XSM, assume that a domain with permission to
> > remove the PF is also allowed to remove the VFs. We should probably also
> > return an error from pci_remove_device in the case of removing the PF
> > with VFs still present (and still perform the removals despite returning
> > an error). Subsequent attempts by a domain to remove the VFs would
> > return an error (as they have already been removed), but that's expected
> > since we've taken a stance that PF-then-VF removal order is invalid
> > anyway.
>
> I am not confident this is a safe assumption. It will likely be safe for 
> probably 99% of the implementations. Apologies for not following 
> closely, and correct me if I am wrong here, but from a resource 
> perspective each VF can appear to the system as its own unique BDF and 
> so I am fairly certain it would be possible to uniquely label each VF. 
> For instance in the SVP architecture, the VF may be labeled to restrict 
> control to a hardware domain within a Guest Virtual Platform while the 
> PF may be restricted to the Supervisor Virtual Platform. In this 
> scenario, the Guest would be torn down before the Supervisor so the VF 
> should get released before the PF. But it's all theoretical, so I have 
> no real implementation to point at that this could be checked/confirmed.
>
> I am only raising this for awareness and not as an objection. If people 
> want to punt that theoretical use case down the road until someone 
> actually attempts it, I would not be opposed.

Wouldn't it stand to reason then to act conditionally on the authority of the
caller?

i.e: If the caller has the (XSM-checked) authority to remove _BOTH_ PF and
VFs, remove all. If it doesn't have authority to remove the VFs then early exit
with an error, leaving the PF behind as well.

That would do the clean thing in the common case and be consistent with the
security policy even with a conflicting policy. The semantics are somewhat more
complex, but trying to remove a PF before removing the VFs is silly and the
only sensible thing (imo) is to help out during cleanup _or_ be strict about
checking.

>
> v/r,
> dps

Cheers,
Alejandro


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-18 20:39 [PATCH v6 0/3] xen: SR-IOV fixes Stewart Hildebrand
2024-10-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] x86/msi: harden stale pdev handling Stewart Hildebrand
2024-10-28 16:58   ` Jan Beulich
2024-10-28 17:53     ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-10-31 11:29       ` Jan Beulich
2024-10-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] xen/pci: introduce PF<->VF links Stewart Hildebrand
2024-10-28 17:02   ` Jan Beulich
2024-11-01 20:16     ` Stewart Hildebrand
2024-11-02 15:18       ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-04 11:45         ` Alejandro Vallejo [this message]
2024-11-05  9:08           ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-11-06 16:20             ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-06 17:04           ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-05  9:03         ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-11-06 16:31           ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-04  7:44       ` Jan Beulich
2024-11-07 14:32         ` Stewart Hildebrand
2024-11-08 12:42         ` Alejandro Vallejo
2024-11-08 13:17           ` Jan Beulich
2024-11-08 15:19             ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-11-08 16:29               ` Stewart Hildebrand
2024-11-11  6:40                 ` Jan Beulich
2024-11-12  9:05                   ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-10-28 18:41   ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-11-11 20:07     ` Stewart Hildebrand
2024-11-12  9:02       ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-11-12  9:39         ` Jan Beulich
2024-11-12 17:41           ` Stewart Hildebrand
2024-11-12  9:42       ` Jan Beulich
2024-10-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] x86/msi: fix locking for SR-IOV devices Stewart Hildebrand

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