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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Onur" <work@onurozkan.dev>
Cc: "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>,
	<ojeda@kernel.org>, <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>, <gary@garyguo.net>,
	<a.hindborg@kernel.org>, <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	<tmgross@umich.edu>, <dakr@kernel.org>, <peterz@infradead.org>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <will@kernel.org>, <longman@redhat.com>,
	<felipe_life@live.com>, <daniel@sedlak.dev>,
	<bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] implement ww_mutex abstraction for the Rust tree
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2025 21:48:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB62ZN1LTO31.1HVWDLAWJWVM8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250707210613.2fd5bb55@nimda.home>

On Mon Jul 7, 2025 at 8:06 PM CEST, Onur wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2025 17:31:10 +0200
> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon Jul 7, 2025 at 3:39 PM CEST, Onur wrote:
>> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:14:37 +0200
>> > "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > We also need to take into consideration that the user want to
>> >> > drop any lock in the sequence? E.g. the user acquires a, b and
>> >> > c, and then drop b, and then acquires d. Which I think is
>> >> > possible for ww_mutex.
>> >> 
>> >> Hmm what about adding this to the above idea?:
>> >> 
>> >>     impl<'a, Locks> WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks>
>> >>     where
>> >>         Locks: Tuple
>> >>     {
>> >>         fn custom<L2>(self, action: impl FnOnce(Locks) -> L2) ->
>> >> WwActiveCtx<'a, L2>; }
>> >> 
>> >> Then you can do:
>> >> 
>> >>     let (a, c, d) = ctx.begin()
>> >>         .lock(a)
>> >>         .lock(b)
>> >>         .lock(c)
>> >>         .custom(|(a, _, c)| (a, c))
>> >>         .lock(d)
>> >>         .finish();
>> >
>> >
>> > Instead of `begin` and `custom`, why not something like this:
>> >
>> > 	let (a, c, d) = ctx.init()
>> > 	    .lock(a)
>> >             .lock(b)
>> >             .lock(c)
>> >             .unlock(b)
>> >             .lock(d)
>> >             .finish();
>> >
>> > Instead of `begin`, `init` would be better naming to imply `fini`
>> > on the C side, and `unlock` instead of `custom` would make the
>> > intent clearer when dropping locks mid chain.

Also, I'm not really fond of the name `init`, how about `enter`?

>> 
>> I don't think that this `unlock` operation will work. How would you
>> implement it?
>
>
> We could link mutexes to locks using some unique value, so that we can
> access locks by passing mutexes (though that sounds a bit odd).
>
> Another option would be to unlock by the index, e.g.,:
>
> 	let (a, c) = ctx.init()
> 	    .lock(a)
>             .lock(b)
>             .unlock::<1>()
>             .lock(c)
>             .finish();

Hmm yeah that's interesting, but probably not very readable...

    let (a, c, e) = ctx
        .enter()
        .lock(a)
        .lock(b)
        .lock_with(|(a, b)| b.foo())
        .unlock::<1>()
        .lock(c)
        .lock(d)
        .lock_with(|(.., d)| d.bar())
        .unlock::<2>();

> The index approach would require us to write something very similar
> to `Tuple` (with macro obviously) you proposed sometime ago.
>
> We could also just go back to your `custom` but find a better name
> for it (such as `retain`).

Oh yeah the name was just a placeholder.

The advantage of custom is that the user can do anything in the closure.

---
Cheers,
Benno

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-07 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-21 18:44 [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] rust: add C wrappers for `ww_mutex` inline functions Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] implement ww_mutex abstraction for the Rust tree Onur Özkan
2025-06-22  9:18   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 13:04     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 13:44       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:47         ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 15:14           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 17:11             ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 23:22               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24  5:34                 ` Onur
2025-06-24  8:20                   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 12:31                     ` Onur
2025-06-24 12:48                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 13:39             ` Onur
2025-07-07 15:31               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 18:06                 ` Onur
2025-07-07 19:48                   ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-07-08 14:21                     ` Onur
2025-08-01 21:22                     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:42                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-02 13:41                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-02 14:15                         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 20:58                           ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 15:18                             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05  9:08                           ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-05 12:41                             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05 13:50                               ` Onur Özkan
2025-06-23 11:51   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-23 13:26   ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 18:17     ` Onur
2025-06-23 21:54       ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] add KUnit coverage on Rust `ww_mutex` implementation Onur Özkan
2025-06-22  9:16 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Benno Lossin
2025-07-24 13:53 ` Onur Özkan
2025-07-29 17:15   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-30 10:24     ` Onur Özkan
2025-07-30 10:55       ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 16:22   ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-05 17:56     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06  5:57     ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-06 17:37       ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-06 19:30         ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-14 11:13           ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-14 12:38             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-14 15:56               ` Onur
2025-08-14 18:22                 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-18 12:56                   ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 10:05                     ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 12:28                       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-02 16:53                   ` Onur
2025-09-03  6:24                     ` Onur
2025-09-03 13:04                       ` Daniel Almeida

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