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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Jesung Yang" <y.j3ms.n@gmail.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feong@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 3/3] gpu: nova-core: use BoundedInt
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2025 19:18:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DDDYOBOZTF7Q.124VJDF4C76B6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aOflmmHe8O6Nx9Hp@yury>

On Thu Oct 9, 2025 at 6:40 PM CEST, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2025 at 09:37:10PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> Use BoundedInt with the register!() macro and adapt the nova-core code
>> accordingly. This makes it impossible to trim values when setting a
>> register field, because either the value of the field has been inferred
>> at compile-time to fit within the bounds of the field, or the user has
>> been forced to check at runtime that it does indeed fit.
>
> In C23 we've got _BitInt(), which works like:
>
>         unsigned _BitInt(2) a = 5; // compile-time error
>
> Can you consider a similar name and syntax in rust?

Rust is a different language and has its own syntax, I think we should not try
to use C syntax instead.

>>          regs::NV_PFALCON_FALCON_DMATRFBASE1::default()
>> -            .set_base((dma_start >> 40) as u16)
>> +            .try_set_base(dma_start >> 40)?
>>              .write(bar, &E::ID);
>
> Does it mean that something like the following syntax is possible?
>
>         regs::NV_PFALCON_FALCON_DMATRFBASE1::default()
>             .try_set_base1(base1 >> 40)?        // fail here

Note that try_set_base1() returns a Result [1], which is handled immediately by
the question mark operator [2]. I.e. if try_set_base1() returns an error it is
propagated to the caller right away without executing any of the code below.

>             .try_set_base2(base2 >> 40)?        // skip
>             .write(bar, &E::ID) else { pr_err!(); return -EINVAL };
>
> This is my main concern: Rust is advertised a as runtime-safe language
> (at lease safer than C), but current design isn't safe against one of
> the most common errors: type overflow.

Where do you see a potential runtime overflows in the register!() code?

[1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/kernel/error/type.Result.html
[2] https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/expressions/operator-expr.html?highlight=question%20mark#the-question-mark-operator

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-09 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-09 12:37 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] rust: bounded integer types and use in register macro Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-09 12:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/3] gpu: nova-core: register: use field type for Into implementation Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-09 15:17   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-09 15:41     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-10  8:24       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-10  8:26         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-10 14:59           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-09 20:10   ` Edwin Peer
2025-10-16 14:51   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-09 12:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/3] rust: kernel: add bounded integer types Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-09 21:33   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-10  8:49     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-10 15:23       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-11 10:33   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-10-09 12:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/3] gpu: nova-core: use BoundedInt Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-09 16:40   ` Yury Norov
2025-10-09 17:18     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-10-09 18:28       ` Yury Norov
2025-10-09 18:37         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-09 19:19         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-09 19:34         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-09 18:29     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-10  9:19     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-10 17:20       ` Yury Norov
2025-10-10 17:58         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-13 13:58         ` Joel Fernandes

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