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From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Alexey Brodkin" <abrodkin@synopsys.com>,
	"Phong LE" <ple@baylibre.com>, "Liu Ying" <victor.liu@nxp.com>,
	"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"Adrien Grassein" <adrien.grassein@gmail.com>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Kieran Bingham" <kieran.bingham+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"Kevin Hilman" <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	"Jerome Brunet" <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
	"Martin Blumenstingl" <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	"Chun-Kuang Hu" <chunkuang.hu@kernel.org>,
	"Philipp Zabel" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Anitha Chrisanthus" <anitha.chrisanthus@intel.com>,
	"Edmund Dea" <edmund.j.dea@intel.com>,
	"Inki Dae" <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	"Seung-Woo Kim" <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
	"Alim Akhtar" <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	"Hui Pu" <Hui.Pu@gehealthcare.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/26] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_of_find_bridge
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:11:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DEYUNHVYCKYJ.2HU878WBYCJMV@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251215-mottled-dexterous-marmot-c69ad3@penduick>

Hi Maxime,

On Mon Dec 15, 2025 at 11:35 AM CET, Maxime Ripard wrote:
[...]
>> > Additionally, as a matter of fact there are currently drivers storing
>> > bridge pointers. The next_bridge is the most common case. Code using
>> > drm_bridge_connector_init() for example can store up to eight of them, but
>> > individual drivers are the hardest to hunt for.
>> >
>> > I can see these (potential) tools to handle this (not mutually exclusive):
>> >
>> >  1. remove drm_bridge pointers pointing to other bridges
>> >  2. check whether a bridge (say B) still exists before any dereference
>> >     to B->another_bridge: that's drm_bridge_enter/exit()
>> >  3. let owners of bridge pointers be notified when a bridge is unplugged,
>> >     so they can actively put their reference and clear their pointer
>> >
>> > For item 1, I think the drm_of_bridge_attach() idea quoted above would
>> > work, at least for the simple cases where bridge drivers use the
>> > next_bridge only for attach. A next_bridge pointer in struct drm_bridge is
>> > not even needed in that case, the pointer would be computed from OF when
>> > needed and not stored. I can do an experiment and send a first series, do
>> > you think it would be useful?
>>
>> I had a look and, while the implementation should be simple, only a few
>> drivers could benefit right now. The majority fall into one of these
>> categories:
>>
>>  * drivers using drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() or *_of_get_bridge()
>>    (maybe 60-80% of all drivers, those will have to wait for the panel
>>    improvements)
>>  * drivers using the next_bridge pointer for more than just attach
>>  * drivers doing more complicated stuff
>>
>> I think your "put next_bridge in __drm_bridge_free" idea would fit well the
>> 2nd category and perhaps also the 1st one. For the 3rd category we'd need
>> something different, e.g. a per-driver .destroy callback.
>
> Yep, that's fine. We should optimize for the common case, with an escape
> hatch. That's exactly what we are talking about here.

Not sure why, but it's taking a while before I grasp your ideas about this
series and meld them with mine. I hopefully got a clear POV now, so based
on it my plan is to rework this series to:

 * keep drm_of_find_bridge() but renamed to of_drm_get_bridge(), and keep
   patches 1-5 (with the changes suggested by you and Louis, nothing big
   and all already sent in v2)
 * not add devm_drm_of_find_bridge()
 * add next_bridge pointer to struct drm_bridge and call
   drm_bridge_put(bridge->next_bridge) in __drm_bridge_free, document it
 * convert patches 7-26 to use bridge->next_bridge where applicable,
   or to do something different when needed
 * maybe remove part of patches 7-26 just to reduce spam and rework effort
   in case of further iterations, to send them separately once the approach
   is accepted

Does it look OK?

Luca

--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

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From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Alexey Brodkin" <abrodkin@synopsys.com>,
	"Phong LE" <ple@baylibre.com>, "Liu Ying" <victor.liu@nxp.com>,
	"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"Adrien Grassein" <adrien.grassein@gmail.com>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Kieran Bingham" <kieran.bingham+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"Kevin Hilman" <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	"Jerome Brunet" <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
	"Martin Blumenstingl" <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	"Chun-Kuang Hu" <chunkuang.hu@kernel.org>,
	"Philipp Zabel" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Anitha Chrisanthus" <anitha.chrisanthus@intel.com>,
	"Edmund Dea" <edmund.j.dea@intel.com>,
	"Inki Dae" <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	"Seung-Woo Kim" <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
	"Alim Akhtar" <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	"Hui Pu" <Hui.Pu@gehealthcare.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <imx@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/26] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_of_find_bridge
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:11:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DEYUNHVYCKYJ.2HU878WBYCJMV@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251215-mottled-dexterous-marmot-c69ad3@penduick>

Hi Maxime,

On Mon Dec 15, 2025 at 11:35 AM CET, Maxime Ripard wrote:
[...]
>> > Additionally, as a matter of fact there are currently drivers storing
>> > bridge pointers. The next_bridge is the most common case. Code using
>> > drm_bridge_connector_init() for example can store up to eight of them, but
>> > individual drivers are the hardest to hunt for.
>> >
>> > I can see these (potential) tools to handle this (not mutually exclusive):
>> >
>> >  1. remove drm_bridge pointers pointing to other bridges
>> >  2. check whether a bridge (say B) still exists before any dereference
>> >     to B->another_bridge: that's drm_bridge_enter/exit()
>> >  3. let owners of bridge pointers be notified when a bridge is unplugged,
>> >     so they can actively put their reference and clear their pointer
>> >
>> > For item 1, I think the drm_of_bridge_attach() idea quoted above would
>> > work, at least for the simple cases where bridge drivers use the
>> > next_bridge only for attach. A next_bridge pointer in struct drm_bridge is
>> > not even needed in that case, the pointer would be computed from OF when
>> > needed and not stored. I can do an experiment and send a first series, do
>> > you think it would be useful?
>>
>> I had a look and, while the implementation should be simple, only a few
>> drivers could benefit right now. The majority fall into one of these
>> categories:
>>
>>  * drivers using drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() or *_of_get_bridge()
>>    (maybe 60-80% of all drivers, those will have to wait for the panel
>>    improvements)
>>  * drivers using the next_bridge pointer for more than just attach
>>  * drivers doing more complicated stuff
>>
>> I think your "put next_bridge in __drm_bridge_free" idea would fit well the
>> 2nd category and perhaps also the 1st one. For the 3rd category we'd need
>> something different, e.g. a per-driver .destroy callback.
>
> Yep, that's fine. We should optimize for the common case, with an escape
> hatch. That's exactly what we are talking about here.

Not sure why, but it's taking a while before I grasp your ideas about this
series and meld them with mine. I hopefully got a clear POV now, so based
on it my plan is to rework this series to:

 * keep drm_of_find_bridge() but renamed to of_drm_get_bridge(), and keep
   patches 1-5 (with the changes suggested by you and Louis, nothing big
   and all already sent in v2)
 * not add devm_drm_of_find_bridge()
 * add next_bridge pointer to struct drm_bridge and call
   drm_bridge_put(bridge->next_bridge) in __drm_bridge_free, document it
 * convert patches 7-26 to use bridge->next_bridge where applicable,
   or to do something different when needed
 * maybe remove part of patches 7-26 just to reduce spam and rework effort
   in case of further iterations, to send them separately once the approach
   is accepted

Does it look OK?

Luca

--
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Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-15 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-19 13:05 [PATCH 00/26] drm/bridge: add drm_of_find_bridge(), deprecate of_drm_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 01/26] drm/bridge: add drm_of_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 14:22   ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 14:22     ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 14:29     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 14:29       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 10:15   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 10:15     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 16:03     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 16:03       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 02/26] drm/bridge: deprecate of_drm_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 14:28   ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 14:28     ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 15:13     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 15:13       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 10:18     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 10:18       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 16:23       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 16:23         ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 03/26] drm/todo: add entry about converting to drm_of_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 10:21   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 10:21     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 04/26] drm/bridge: make of_drm_find_bridge() a wrapper of drm_of_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 10:22   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 10:22     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 16:44     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 16:44       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-01 16:34       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-01 16:34         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-11 17:48         ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-11 17:48           ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 05/26] drm/arcpgu: convert to drm_of_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 06/26] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_of_find_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 14:33   ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 14:33     ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 15:05     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 15:05       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 10:39   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 10:39     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 16:25     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 16:25       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-01 16:51       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-01 16:51         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-11 17:47         ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-11 17:47           ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-12 11:10           ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-12 11:10             ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-15 10:35             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-15 10:35               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-15 14:11               ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2025-12-15 14:11                 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-16 13:49                 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-16 13:49                   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-16 16:36                   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-16 16:36                     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-12-15  9:41           ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-15  9:41             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-15  9:52             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-12-15  9:52               ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 07/26] drm/bridge: ite-it66121: use devm_drm_of_find_bridge() to put the next bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 14:36   ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 14:36     ` Louis Chauvet
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 08/26] drm/bridge: imx8qxp-pixel-combiner: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 09/26] drm/bridge: simple-bridge: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 10/26] drm/bridge: tpd12s015: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 11/26] drm/bridge: thc63lvd1024: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 12/26] drm/bridge: imx8qxp-pxl2dpi: use devm_drm_of_find_bridge() to put the next and companion bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 13/26] drm/bridge: lt8912b: use devm_drm_of_find_bridge() to put the hdmi bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 14/26] drm/bridge: tfp410: use devm_drm_of_find_bridge() to put the next bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 15/26] drm/bridge: imx8qxp-ldb: use devm_drm_of_find_bridge() to put the companion bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 16/26] drm/rcar-du: lvds: use devm_drm_of_find_bridge() to put the next bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 17/26] drm/meson: encoder_*: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 18/26] drm/bridge: sii902x: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 19/26] drm/mediatek: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 20/26] drm/kmb: dsi: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 21/26] drm/imx/ipuv3: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 22/26] drm/exynos: hdmi: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 23/26] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 24/26] drm/bridge: imx8qxp-pixel-link: simplify logic to find " Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 25/26] drm/bridge: imx8qxp-pixel-link: simplify freeing of the remote device_node Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05 ` [PATCH 26/26] drm/bridge: imx8qxp-pixel-link: convert to drm_of_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 13:05   ` Luca Ceresoli

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