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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 01/16] set_memory: set_direct_map_* to take address
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 15:04:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DJJ2NKKPRANG.188CUADJO2CKK@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DJJ23EXF55VK.1EGQZS511HFB6@linux.dev>
On Fri Jun 26, 2026 at 2:38 PM UTC, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Tue Apr 21, 2026 at 2:43 PM UTC, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 03:17:58PM +0000, Kalyazin, Nikita wrote:
>>> From: Nikita Kalyazin <nikita.kalyazin@linux.dev>
>>>
>>> Let's convert set_direct_map_*() to take an address instead of a page to
>>> prepare for adding helpers that operate on folios; it will be more
>>> efficient to convert from a folio directly to an address without going
>>> through a page first.
>
> Why is this more efficient? Isn't it a purely compile-time conversion?
>
> Indeed in the current implementation folio_address() is
> page_address(&folio->page) so it still goes through a page anyway, no?
>
> I might be missing context here about how this will look in the
> memdesc future.
Sorry I failed to do the history search here, this was suggested by
Willy during the review here:
https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/aWkN4yzwPtotaTeq@casper.infradead.org/
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> The implementation isn't the greatest. None of the implementations
> of set_direct_map_valid_noflush() actually do anything with the struct
> page; they all call page_address() or page_to_virt() (fundamentally the
> same thing).
But IMO the struct page isn't there to carry runtime information, it's a
type hint that this API operates on physical pages. Yes this is already
implied by the name but it also gives us a certain amount of safety
since it avoids unaligned or non-physmap addresses at compile time.
> So converting folio->page->address is a bit inefficient.
... but yeah now I see this comes from Willy I definitely suspect I'm
missing memdesc insight here.
> It feels like we should change set_direct_map_valid_noflush() to take a
> const void * and pass either page_address() or folio_address(), depending
> whether the caller has a page or a folio. What do you think?
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 01/16] set_memory: set_direct_map_* to take address
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 15:04:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DJJ2NKKPRANG.188CUADJO2CKK@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DJJ23EXF55VK.1EGQZS511HFB6@linux.dev>
On Fri Jun 26, 2026 at 2:38 PM UTC, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Tue Apr 21, 2026 at 2:43 PM UTC, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 03:17:58PM +0000, Kalyazin, Nikita wrote:
>>> From: Nikita Kalyazin <nikita.kalyazin@linux.dev>
>>>
>>> Let's convert set_direct_map_*() to take an address instead of a page to
>>> prepare for adding helpers that operate on folios; it will be more
>>> efficient to convert from a folio directly to an address without going
>>> through a page first.
>
> Why is this more efficient? Isn't it a purely compile-time conversion?
>
> Indeed in the current implementation folio_address() is
> page_address(&folio->page) so it still goes through a page anyway, no?
>
> I might be missing context here about how this will look in the
> memdesc future.
Sorry I failed to do the history search here, this was suggested by
Willy during the review here:
https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/aWkN4yzwPtotaTeq@casper.infradead.org/
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> The implementation isn't the greatest. None of the implementations
> of set_direct_map_valid_noflush() actually do anything with the struct
> page; they all call page_address() or page_to_virt() (fundamentally the
> same thing).
But IMO the struct page isn't there to carry runtime information, it's a
type hint that this API operates on physical pages. Yes this is already
implied by the name but it also gives us a certain amount of safety
since it avoids unaligned or non-physmap addresses at compile time.
> So converting folio->page->address is a bit inefficient.
... but yeah now I see this comes from Willy I definitely suspect I'm
missing memdesc insight here.
> It feels like we should change set_direct_map_valid_noflush() to take a
> const void * and pass either page_address() or folio_address(), depending
> whether the caller has a page or a folio. What do you think?
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2026-04-10 15:17 [PATCH v12 00/16] Direct Map Removal Support for guest_memfd Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:17 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:17 ` [PATCH v12 01/16] set_memory: set_direct_map_* to take address Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:17 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 14:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 14:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-26 14:38 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 14:38 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-26 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-26 15:08 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 15:08 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 15:04 ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2026-06-26 15:04 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 15:28 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-26 15:28 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 02/16] set_memory: add folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map helpers Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 03/16] mm/secretmem: make use of folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 04/16] mm/gup: drop secretmem optimization from gup_fast_folio_allowed Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 05/16] mm/gup: drop local variable in gup_fast_folio_allowed Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` [PATCH v12 06/16] mm: introduce AS_NO_DIRECT_MAP Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:18 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 07/16] KVM: guest_memfd: Add stub for kvm_arch_gmem_invalidate Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 08/16] KVM: x86: define kvm_arch_gmem_supports_no_direct_map() Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 09/16] KVM: arm64: " Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 16:55 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-21 16:55 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-26 14:45 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 14:45 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 10/16] KVM: guest_memfd: Add flag to remove from direct map Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 16:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 16:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 17:08 ` Frank van der Linden
2026-04-21 17:08 ` Frank van der Linden
2026-05-08 8:18 ` Takahiro Itazuri
2026-05-08 8:18 ` Takahiro Itazuri
2026-05-14 16:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-05-14 16:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 11/16] KVM: selftests: load elf via bounce buffer Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` [PATCH v12 12/16] KVM: selftests: set KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD in vm_mem_add() if guest_memfd != -1 Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:19 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 13/16] KVM: selftests: Add guest_memfd based vm_mem_backing_src_types Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-06-26 14:22 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 14/16] KVM: selftests: cover GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_NO_DIRECT_MAP in existing selftests Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 15/16] KVM: selftests: stuff vm_mem_backing_src_type into vm_shape Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v12 16/16] KVM: selftests: Test guest execution from direct map removed gmem Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-10 15:20 ` Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-04-21 13:40 ` [PATCH v12 00/16] Direct Map Removal Support for guest_memfd Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 13:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 16:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 16:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-06 8:07 ` Takahiro Itazuri
2026-05-06 8:07 ` Takahiro Itazuri
2026-05-26 16:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 16:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-26 15:28 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-26 15:28 ` Brendan Jackman
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