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From: "Troy Mitchell" <troy.mitchell@linux.spacemit.com>
To: "Ali Tariq" <alitariq45892@gmail.com>,
	"Troy Mitchell" <troy.mitchell@linux.spacemit.com>,
	"Vivian Wang" <wangruikang@iscas.ac.cn>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Vadim Fedorenko" <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>, "Yixun Lan" <dlan@kernel.org>,
	"Chukun Pan" <amadeus@jmu.edu.cn>,
	"Siddharth Vadapalli" <s-vadapalli@ti.com>,
	"Tomas Hlavacek" <tmshlvck@gmail.com>,
	"Muhammad Bilal" <meatuni001@gmail.com>,
	"Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>, <spacemit@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: spacemit: Hold RTNL lock in emac_resume() and emac_suspend()
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 14:48:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMTBCR706MJ6.23YJ33SOJOGV2@linux.spacemit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e11f1ba6-6e56-4bac-a0cb-f9258a53f34e@gmail.com>

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Hi Ali,

On Thu Nov 12, 2026 at 1:33 PM GMT, Ali Tariq wrote:
>
>
> On 11/9/26 1:10 PM, Troy Mitchell wrote:
>> On Mon Nov 9, 2026 at 7:59 AM GMT, Vivian Wang wrote:
>>> On 11/8/26 15:19, Troy Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat Nov 7, 2026 at 5:32 PM GMT, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 03:44:50PM +0500, Ali Tariq wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/26 2:43 PM, Troy Mitchell wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu,  5 Nov 2026 17:34:37 +0500, Ali Tariq wrote:
>>>>>>>> @@ -2056,7 +2059,9 @@ static int emac_suspend(struct device *dev)
>>>>>>>>    		return 0;
>>>>>>>>    	}
>>>>>>>> +	rtnl_lock();
>>>>>>>>    	emac_stop(ndev);
>>>>>>>> +	rtnl_unlock();
>>>>>>>>    	clk_disable_unprepare(priv->bus_clk);
>>>>>>>>    	netif_device_detach(ndev);
>>>>>>> This can deadlock. emac_stop() -> emac_down() calls
>>>>>>> cancel_work_sync(&priv->tx_timeout_task) with RTNL now held, while
>>>>>>> emac_tx_timeout_task() starts with rtnl_lock().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Troy, that makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the deadlock, I think the correct function to call is rtnl_trylock()
>>>>>> inside the emac_tx_timeout_task(), which would return if the lock is already
>>>>>> held and will hold the lock if it is not.
>>>>> rtnl_trylock() is generally a workaround needed for badly written
>>>>> code. Please try to avoid it.
>>>> Agreed. If the reset is done in place, the work does not need RTNL at all,
>>>> so .ndo_stop can keep cancel_work_sync() as is.
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the diagnosis and suggestions.
>>>
>>> Although, maybe we could simply avoid cancel_work_sync() in emac_down()?
>>> emac_tx_timeout_task() checks for !netif_running and does nothing if
>>> already down so it should be safe. The task cancel_work_sync() in
>>> emac_remove() does cleanup on unbind so the task is not leaked.
>>>
>>> This seems to be the pattern in other drivers as well. What do you think?
>> That was my first thought too, but I'm not sure netif_running() is
>> enough here. emac_suspend() calls emac_stop() directly, so
>> netif_running() is still true and a pending work would stop the device
>> a second time. And since the netdev is devm-registered, emac_remove()
>> runs before unregister_netdev(), so the work could be requeued after
>> the cancel there.
>> 
>> So we'd still need to cancel it in suspend and remove, and at that
>> point resetting in place looks simpler to me. What do you think?
>> 
>> 
>
> Thanks Troy, Vivian and Andrew. I'll drop rtnl_trylock().
>
> I think a simpler approach here will be to go with Vivian's suggestion
> of dropping cancel_work_sync() from emac_down(), and handle Troy's two
> cases by disabling the work where the device is stopped without the core:
>
> 1. Suspend: emac_suspend() calls disable_work_sync() before stopping
>     the device, and emac_resume() calls enable_work(). So the work
>     can't run while the device is suspended.
>
> 2. Remove: emac_remove() uses disable_work_sync() instead of
>     cancel_work_sync(), so the work can't be queued again before the
>     devm unregister_netdev().
>
> For a normal close, the work's existing netif_running() check is
> enough, because the core clears it before calling .ndo_stop.
>
> With this, nothing waits for the work while holding RTNL, and the
> work doesn't wait for itself.
>
> v2 will have two patches. First the TX timeout fix (reported by Troy) 
> then the suspend/resume patch, which will take
> RTNL after disable_work_sync() and before the netif_running() checks.
Sounds good :)


-- 
Troy Mitchell


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From: "Troy Mitchell" <troy.mitchell@linux.spacemit.com>
To: "Ali Tariq" <alitariq45892@gmail.com>,
	"Troy Mitchell" <troy.mitchell@linux.spacemit.com>,
	"Vivian Wang" <wangruikang@iscas.ac.cn>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Vadim Fedorenko" <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>, "Yixun Lan" <dlan@kernel.org>,
	"Chukun Pan" <amadeus@jmu.edu.cn>,
	"Siddharth Vadapalli" <s-vadapalli@ti.com>,
	"Tomas Hlavacek" <tmshlvck@gmail.com>,
	"Muhammad Bilal" <meatuni001@gmail.com>,
	"Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>, <spacemit@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: spacemit: Hold RTNL lock in emac_resume() and emac_suspend()
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 14:48:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMTBCR706MJ6.23YJ33SOJOGV2@linux.spacemit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e11f1ba6-6e56-4bac-a0cb-f9258a53f34e@gmail.com>


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Hi Ali,

On Thu Nov 12, 2026 at 1:33 PM GMT, Ali Tariq wrote:
>
>
> On 11/9/26 1:10 PM, Troy Mitchell wrote:
>> On Mon Nov 9, 2026 at 7:59 AM GMT, Vivian Wang wrote:
>>> On 11/8/26 15:19, Troy Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat Nov 7, 2026 at 5:32 PM GMT, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 03:44:50PM +0500, Ali Tariq wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/26 2:43 PM, Troy Mitchell wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu,  5 Nov 2026 17:34:37 +0500, Ali Tariq wrote:
>>>>>>>> @@ -2056,7 +2059,9 @@ static int emac_suspend(struct device *dev)
>>>>>>>>    		return 0;
>>>>>>>>    	}
>>>>>>>> +	rtnl_lock();
>>>>>>>>    	emac_stop(ndev);
>>>>>>>> +	rtnl_unlock();
>>>>>>>>    	clk_disable_unprepare(priv->bus_clk);
>>>>>>>>    	netif_device_detach(ndev);
>>>>>>> This can deadlock. emac_stop() -> emac_down() calls
>>>>>>> cancel_work_sync(&priv->tx_timeout_task) with RTNL now held, while
>>>>>>> emac_tx_timeout_task() starts with rtnl_lock().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Troy, that makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the deadlock, I think the correct function to call is rtnl_trylock()
>>>>>> inside the emac_tx_timeout_task(), which would return if the lock is already
>>>>>> held and will hold the lock if it is not.
>>>>> rtnl_trylock() is generally a workaround needed for badly written
>>>>> code. Please try to avoid it.
>>>> Agreed. If the reset is done in place, the work does not need RTNL at all,
>>>> so .ndo_stop can keep cancel_work_sync() as is.
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the diagnosis and suggestions.
>>>
>>> Although, maybe we could simply avoid cancel_work_sync() in emac_down()?
>>> emac_tx_timeout_task() checks for !netif_running and does nothing if
>>> already down so it should be safe. The task cancel_work_sync() in
>>> emac_remove() does cleanup on unbind so the task is not leaked.
>>>
>>> This seems to be the pattern in other drivers as well. What do you think?
>> That was my first thought too, but I'm not sure netif_running() is
>> enough here. emac_suspend() calls emac_stop() directly, so
>> netif_running() is still true and a pending work would stop the device
>> a second time. And since the netdev is devm-registered, emac_remove()
>> runs before unregister_netdev(), so the work could be requeued after
>> the cancel there.
>> 
>> So we'd still need to cancel it in suspend and remove, and at that
>> point resetting in place looks simpler to me. What do you think?
>> 
>> 
>
> Thanks Troy, Vivian and Andrew. I'll drop rtnl_trylock().
>
> I think a simpler approach here will be to go with Vivian's suggestion
> of dropping cancel_work_sync() from emac_down(), and handle Troy's two
> cases by disabling the work where the device is stopped without the core:
>
> 1. Suspend: emac_suspend() calls disable_work_sync() before stopping
>     the device, and emac_resume() calls enable_work(). So the work
>     can't run while the device is suspended.
>
> 2. Remove: emac_remove() uses disable_work_sync() instead of
>     cancel_work_sync(), so the work can't be queued again before the
>     devm unregister_netdev().
>
> For a normal close, the work's existing netif_running() check is
> enough, because the core clears it before calling .ndo_stop.
>
> With this, nothing waits for the work while holding RTNL, and the
> work doesn't wait for itself.
>
> v2 will have two patches. First the TX timeout fix (reported by Troy) 
> then the suspend/resume patch, which will take
> RTNL after disable_work_sync() and before the netif_running() checks.
Sounds good :)


-- 
Troy Mitchell


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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-05 12:34 [PATCH net] net: spacemit: Hold RTNL lock in emac_resume() and emac_suspend() Ali Tariq
2026-11-05 12:34 ` Ali Tariq
2026-11-05 13:40 ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-05 13:40   ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-05 22:28   ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-11-05 22:28     ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-11-06  9:41     ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-06  9:41       ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-06 11:54       ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 11:54         ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-06 14:28         ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-06 14:28           ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-06  9:43 ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-06  9:43   ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-06 10:44   ` Ali Tariq
2026-11-06 10:44     ` Ali Tariq
2026-11-06 14:26     ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-06 14:26       ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-07 17:32     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-07 17:32       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-08  7:19       ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-08  7:19         ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-09  7:59         ` Vivian Wang
2026-11-09  7:59           ` Vivian Wang
2026-11-09  8:10           ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-09  8:10             ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-12 13:33             ` Ali Tariq
2026-11-12 13:33               ` Ali Tariq
2026-11-12 14:48               ` Troy Mitchell [this message]
2026-11-12 14:48                 ` Troy Mitchell
2026-11-09 12:50 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-09 12:50   ` netdev-bot+sashiko

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