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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Ion Badulescu <ionut@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: KBuild 2.5 Impressions
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 08:51:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17EPCz-0000Jr-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206012349360.671-100000@age.cs.columbia.edu>

On Sunday 02 June 2002 06:03, you wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> What you and other very vocal proponents of kbuild25 don't understand is 
> that you need break it up __functionally__. That is, add one feature at a 
> time. That way, good features can be added without much of a discussion, 
> and debatable features can be, well, debated.
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't see Keith doing this anytime soon. He's too much in 
> love with his baby to risk seeing parts of it being thrown away, so he's 
> taking an all-or-nothing attitude.

Fortunately, he's got help now:

   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?a=102296100300003&r=1&w=2

> Fortunately, it is precisely what Kai is doing. He deserves a big THANKS 
> for doing it, not your silly bashing. I also saw some good work on this 
> from Sam Ravnborg on the list.

If I got the impression that Kai was actually trying to work with the team,
I'd thank him for that.  He appears to be doing just the opposite, and I
stand by my comment that that is divisive.  He could accomplish the same
thing result he wants - patching up old kbuild - and bring parts of kbuild
2.5 into the tree, reducing the size of that patch *at the same time*,
instead of (apparently) trying to marginalize that work.  That is what I'd
call cooperation.

We have a perfect - and rare - situation here where the two can coexist in
the same tree, and may the best and fastest eventually predominate.  Let's
take advantage of that: let's have both in parallel for a while.

-- 
Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-02  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-30  9:45 KBuild 2.5 Impressions Daniel Phillips
2002-05-30 12:50 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-30 14:08   ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-05-30 13:28 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-05-30 21:55 ` Ion Badulescu
2002-05-30 22:29   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-05-30 23:19   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31  0:09     ` David Lang
2002-05-31  0:29       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31  0:32       ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-03  7:21         ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-31  0:13     ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-05-31  0:47       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31  1:20         ` Skip Ford
2002-05-31  1:24           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31 13:48             ` Tomas Szepe
2002-05-31 14:28               ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-31 15:21                 ` Thunder from the hill
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205302129120.29405-100000@hawkeye.luckynet.adm>
2002-05-31  4:01             ` Skip Ford
2002-05-31  4:46               ` KBuild 2.5 Migration Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31  5:12                 ` Skip Ford
2002-05-31  0:48       ` KBuild 2.5 Impressions Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-31  3:29       ` Hua Zhong
2002-05-31  3:39         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-31  3:55         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02  4:03     ` Ion Badulescu
2002-06-02  6:51       ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-06-02  7:58       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 14:03         ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-06-02 14:38           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-02 14:56             ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-06-02 15:05               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 15:16               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-02 18:26                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-06-02 18:39                   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 18:57                     ` Ion Badulescu
2002-06-02 19:15                       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-03  2:04                 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-02 15:47           ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 11:21 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-02 11:37   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 11:53     ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-02 12:03       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 12:09         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-02 12:51         ` Peter Osterlund
2002-06-02 14:00           ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-03  2:49 Dan Kegel
2002-06-03  3:28 ` Linus Torvalds

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