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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Raceless module interface
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:34:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17pqaz-000891-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020913080709.9026B2C054@lists.samba.org>

On Friday 13 September 2002 08:51, Rusty Russell wrote:
> If you split registration interfaces into reserve (can fail) and
> use (can't fail), then you do:
> 
> 	int my_module_init(void)
> 	{
> 		int ret;
> 		ret = reserve_foo();
> 		if (ret != 0)
> 			return ret;
> 		ret = reserve_bar();
> 		if (ret != 0)
> 			unreserve_foo();
> 		return ret;
> 	}
> 
> 	void my_module_start(void)
> 	{
> 		use_foo();
> 		use_bar();
> 	}

Why is that different from:

 	int my_module_init(void)
 	{
 		int ret;
 		ret = reserve_foo();
 		if (ret != 0)
 			return ret;
 		ret = reserve_bar();
 		if (ret != 0) {
 			unreserve_foo();
	 		return ret;
		}
 		use_foo();
 		use_bar();
		return 0;
 	}

> Note the symmetry here with the exit case: noone can actually use the
> module until my_module_start is called, so even if the reserve_bar()
> fails, we're safe.

And in my example above, nobody can actually use the module until
use_foo().  What's the difference?

> > Sure, I know it's not going to change, but I'd like to know what the
> > thinking was, and especially, if there's a non-bogus reason, I'd
> > like to know it.
> 
> You should probably start playing with my code if you're really
> interested.

Of course, and you might consider actually reading my [RFC].  We still
disagree on whether your fat interface or my thin one is the right way
to go.  Don't forget that the Unix way has traditionally been to use
the simplest interface that will do the job; if you propose a fat
interface you need to prove that the thin one cannot do the job.

-- 
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-13 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-04 18:02 Question about pseudo filesystems Jamie Lokier
2002-09-07 12:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 13:36   ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-07 18:27     ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-07 19:47       ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-08  2:21         ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-08  2:43           ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-15  1:41             ` Moving a mount point (was Re: Question about pseudo filesystems) Rob Landley
2002-09-08 16:00           ` Question about pseudo filesystems Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 19:48             ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-09 20:06               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  0:44                 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10  1:40                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  1:56                     ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10  2:53                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  3:26                         ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10  3:47                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  9:15                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 10:17                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-11 18:35                       ` [RFC] Raceless module interface Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 18:53                         ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-11 19:20                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 20:29                             ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-11 21:15                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 21:26                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-11 21:47                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12  1:42                                     ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12  2:09                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-12  3:13                                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12  3:47                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12  3:53                                             ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-12  4:11                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12  4:40                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12  5:27                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 14:46                                                   ` Gerhard Mack
2002-09-13  0:39                                                     ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13  2:23                                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12  5:35                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12  4:52                                             ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12  5:58                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12  7:00                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13  8:18                                           ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-12  3:32                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12  1:31                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12  9:10                         ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-12 11:27                         ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-12 13:03                           ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 13:44                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13  1:30                               ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13  2:19                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13  6:51                                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 13:34                                     ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-09-13 13:52                                       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 14:09                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 14:33                                           ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 14:44                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 14:59                                               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 15:17                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:27                                                   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 15:37                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  2:17                                       ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-16 16:13                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 16:36                                         ` Understanding the Principles of Argumentation #3 Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 16:42                                           ` Robinson Maureira Castillo
2002-09-16 17:29                                           ` Cort Dougan
2002-09-16 22:31                                           ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-01 14:13                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-01 14:27                                               ` David Woodhouse
2002-09-13 15:59                                     ` [RFC] Raceless module interface Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13  3:14                                 ` David Gibson
2002-09-13 10:35                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 13:53                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:13                                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 15:30                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:55                                         ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 16:09                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 16:39                                         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 17:12                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  0:24                                         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-16  1:49                                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-16 21:36                                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-16 21:48                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 22:44                                         ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-11 15:28                 ` Question about pseudo filesystems Bill Davidsen
2002-09-11 19:36                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 20:12               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:56                 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10  1:39                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-09 20:18               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  6:48                 ` Kai Henningsen

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