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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: maz@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	joro@8bytes.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, dbrazdil@google.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 19/45] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add domains
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 13:13:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+JOhEfi8mu1RuOt@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230201125328.2186498-20-jean-philippe@linaro.org>

Hi Jean,

On Wed, Feb 01, 2023 at 12:53:03PM +0000, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> The IOMMU domain abstraction allows to share the same page tables
> between multiple devices. That may be necessary due to hardware
> constraints, if multiple devices cannot be isolated by the IOMMU
> (conventional PCI bus for example). It may also help with optimizing
> resource or TLB use. For pKVM in particular, it may be useful to reduce
> the amount of memory required for page tables. All devices owned by the
> host kernel could be attached to the same domain (though that requires
> host changes).
> 
> Each IOMMU device holds an array of domains, and the host allocates
> domain IDs that index this array. The alloc() operation initializes the
> domain and prepares the page tables. The attach() operation initializes
> the device table that holds the PGD and its configuration.

I was wondering about the need for pre-allocation of the domain array.

An alternative way I see:
- We don’t pre-allocate any domain.

- When the EL1 driver has a request to domain_alloc, it will allocate
both kernel(iommu_domain) and hypervisor domains(kvm_hyp_iommu_domain).

- In __pkvm_host_iommu_alloc_domain, it will take over the hyp struct
from the kernel (via donation).

- In all other hypercalls, the kernel address of kvm_hyp_iommu_domain will
be used as domain ID, which guarantees uniqueness and O(1) access.

- The hypervisor would just need to transform the address(kern_hyp_va)
to get the domain pointer.

I believe that would save some memory as we allocate domains when needed.

Please let me know what you think about this?

Thanks,
Mostafa

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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: maz@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	joro@8bytes.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, dbrazdil@google.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 19/45] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add domains
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 13:13:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+JOhEfi8mu1RuOt@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230201125328.2186498-20-jean-philippe@linaro.org>

Hi Jean,

On Wed, Feb 01, 2023 at 12:53:03PM +0000, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> The IOMMU domain abstraction allows to share the same page tables
> between multiple devices. That may be necessary due to hardware
> constraints, if multiple devices cannot be isolated by the IOMMU
> (conventional PCI bus for example). It may also help with optimizing
> resource or TLB use. For pKVM in particular, it may be useful to reduce
> the amount of memory required for page tables. All devices owned by the
> host kernel could be attached to the same domain (though that requires
> host changes).
> 
> Each IOMMU device holds an array of domains, and the host allocates
> domain IDs that index this array. The alloc() operation initializes the
> domain and prepares the page tables. The attach() operation initializes
> the device table that holds the PGD and its configuration.

I was wondering about the need for pre-allocation of the domain array.

An alternative way I see:
- We don’t pre-allocate any domain.

- When the EL1 driver has a request to domain_alloc, it will allocate
both kernel(iommu_domain) and hypervisor domains(kvm_hyp_iommu_domain).

- In __pkvm_host_iommu_alloc_domain, it will take over the hyp struct
from the kernel (via donation).

- In all other hypercalls, the kernel address of kvm_hyp_iommu_domain will
be used as domain ID, which guarantees uniqueness and O(1) access.

- The hypervisor would just need to transform the address(kern_hyp_va)
to get the domain pointer.

I believe that would save some memory as we allocate domains when needed.

Please let me know what you think about this?

Thanks,
Mostafa

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Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 12:52 [RFC PATCH 00/45] KVM: Arm SMMUv3 driver for pKVM Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 01/45] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Split the page table driver Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 02/45] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Split initialization Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 03/45] iommu/io-pgtable: Move fmt into io_pgtable_cfg Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-16 11:55   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-16 11:55     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 04/45] iommu/io-pgtable: Add configure() operation Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 05/45] iommu/io-pgtable: Split io_pgtable structure Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07 12:16   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-08 18:01     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-08 18:01       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 06/45] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Extend __arm_lpae_free_pgtable() to only free child tables Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 07/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move some definitions to arm64 include/ Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 08/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add pkvm_udelay() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 09/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add pkvm_create_hyp_device_mapping() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07 12:22   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-07 12:22     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-08 18:02     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-08 18:02       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 10/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Expose pkvm_map/unmap_donated_memory() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 11/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Expose pkvm_admit_host_page() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 12/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Unify pkvm_pkvm_teardown_donated_memory() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-01-15 14:33   ` Sebastian Ene
2024-01-15 14:33     ` Sebastian Ene
2024-01-23 19:49     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-01-23 19:49       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 13/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add hyp_page_ref_inc_return() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 14/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Prevent host donation of device memory Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 15/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add __pkvm_host_share/unshare_dma() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:52   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-04 12:51   ` tina.zhang
2023-02-04 12:51     ` tina.zhang
2023-02-06 12:13     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-06 12:13       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07  2:37       ` tina.zhang
2023-02-07  2:37         ` tina.zhang
2023-02-07 10:39         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07 10:39           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07 12:53   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-07 12:53     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-10 19:21     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-10 19:21       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 16/45] KVM: arm64: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 17/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add IOMMU hypercalls Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 18/45] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add per-cpu page queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 19/45] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add domains Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07 13:13   ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2023-02-07 13:13     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-08 12:31     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-08 12:31       ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-08 18:05       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-08 18:05         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-10 22:03         ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-10 22:03           ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-05-19 15:33   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-05-19 15:33     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-06-02 15:29     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-06-02 15:29       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-06-15 13:32       ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-06-15 13:32         ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 20/45] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add map() and unmap() operations Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-03-30 18:14   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-03-30 18:14     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-04-04 16:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-04-04 16:00       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-09-20 16:23       ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-09-20 16:23         ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-09-25 17:21         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-09-25 17:21           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-16 11:59   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-16 11:59     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-26 14:12     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-26 14:12       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 21/45] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add SMMUv3 driver Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 22/45] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Initialize registers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 23/45] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Setup command queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 24/45] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Setup stream table Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-01-16  8:59   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-01-16  8:59     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-01-23 19:45     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-01-23 19:45       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-16 12:19       ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-16 12:19         ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-26 14:13         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-26 14:13           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-03-06 12:51           ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-03-06 12:51             ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 25/45] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Reset the device Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 26/45] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Support io-pgtable Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 27/45] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Setup domains and page table configuration Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-06-23 19:12   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-06-23 19:12     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-07-03 10:41     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-07-03 10:41       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-01-15 14:34   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-01-15 14:34     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-01-23 19:50     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-01-23 19:50       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-16 12:11       ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-16 12:11         ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-26 14:18         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-26 14:18           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 28/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Extract driver-specific bits from probe function Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 29/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move some functions to arm-smmu-v3-common.c Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 30/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move queue and table allocation " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-16 12:03   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-16 12:03     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-02-26 14:19     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-02-26 14:19       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 31/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move firmware probe to arm-smmu-v3-common Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 32/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IOMMU registration to arm-smmu-v3-common.c Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 33/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Use single pages for level-2 stream tables Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 34/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add host driver for pKVM Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 35/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Pass a list of SMMU devices to the hypervisor Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 36/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Validate device features Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 37/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Allocate structures and reset device Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 38/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add per-cpu page queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 39/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Initialize page table configuration Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-03-22 10:23   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-03-22 10:23     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-03-22 14:42     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-03-22 14:42       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 40/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add IOMMU ops Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07 13:22   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-07 13:22     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-08 18:13     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-08 18:13       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-09-20 16:27   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-09-20 16:27     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-09-25 17:18     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-09-25 17:18       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-09-26  9:54       ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-09-26  9:54         ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 41/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add __pkvm_host_add_remove_page() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 42/45] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Support SCMI power domain Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-07 13:27   ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-07 13:27     ` Mostafa Saleh
2023-02-10 19:23     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-10 19:23       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 43/45] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Support power management Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 44/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Support power management with SCMI SMC Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53 ` [RFC PATCH 45/45] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable runtime PM Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-01 12:53   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-02  7:07 ` [RFC PATCH 00/45] KVM: Arm SMMUv3 driver for pKVM Tian, Kevin
2023-02-02  7:07   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-02 10:05   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-02 10:05     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-03  2:04     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-03  2:04       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-03  8:39       ` Chen, Jason CJ
2023-02-03  8:39         ` Chen, Jason CJ
2023-02-03 11:23         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-03 11:23           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-02-04  8:19           ` Chen, Jason CJ
2023-02-04  8:19             ` Chen, Jason CJ
2023-02-04 12:30             ` tina.zhang
2023-02-04 12:30               ` tina.zhang

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