* USB Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Keyboard has fn_lock inverted
@ 2022-11-11 17:06 Josh Triplett
2022-11-12 15:23 ` Jamie Lentin
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From: Josh Triplett @ 2022-11-11 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-input, Jamie Lentin; +Cc: 1006251
I have an external ThinkPad USB keyboard:
$ lsusb | grep -i keyboard
Bus 003 Device 022: ID 17ef:6047 Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Keyboard with TrackPoint
The Linux kernel exposes a fn_lock attribute in sysfs for this keyboard:
$ cat
sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-5/3-5.4/3-5.4.3/3-5.4.3:1.1/0003:17EF:6047.000F/fn_lock
1
However, this attribute appears inverted for this particular keyboard:
it seems to be 1 when FnLock is *disabled* and 0 when FnLock is
*enabled*. In order to enable FnLock, I have to write 0 to this file.
(Also, separately from that, it would be nice if the kernel could handle
fn_lock toggling *internally*, rather than expecting userspace to do it.
As far as I can tell, it does handle similar things for some keyboards,
but not this one.)
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* Re: USB Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Keyboard has fn_lock inverted
2022-11-11 17:06 USB Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Keyboard has fn_lock inverted Josh Triplett
@ 2022-11-12 15:23 ` Jamie Lentin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Lentin @ 2022-11-12 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Triplett; +Cc: linux-input, 1006251
On 2022-11-11 17:06, Josh Triplett wrote:
> I have an external ThinkPad USB keyboard:
>
> $ lsusb | grep -i keyboard
> Bus 003 Device 022: ID 17ef:6047 Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Keyboard with
> TrackPoint
>
> The Linux kernel exposes a fn_lock attribute in sysfs for this
> keyboard:
>
> $ cat
> sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-5/3-5.4/3-5.4.3/3-5.4.3:1.1/0003:17EF:6047.000F/fn_lock
> 1
>
> However, this attribute appears inverted for this particular keyboard:
> it seems to be 1 when FnLock is *disabled* and 0 when FnLock is
> *enabled*. In order to enable FnLock, I have to write 0 to this file.
Under Windows the default actions of the Function keys are the media
keys, i.e. pressing F1 is Mute. Fn-"Mute" is F1, or enabling Fn-Lock &
"Mute". That's why when /fn_lock is 1, the Mute key is F1.
With keyboards built into Thinkpads there's a BIOS setting to invert the
behaviour of Fn-Lock (and thus have Fn keys by default), as well as
swapping Fn<->Ctrl, but there's no equivalent option for the external
keyboards.
What's the wrong way around here is hid-lenovo assumes that you want
Fn-Lock on when connecting to the keyboard, not off. My assumption at
the time was that whilst it's different to how the keyboard behaves
under Windows, it'd be a more useful default.
> (Also, separately from that, it would be nice if the kernel could
> handle
> fn_lock toggling *internally*, rather than expecting userspace to do
> it.
> As far as I can tell, it does handle similar things for some keyboards,
> but not this one.)
Agreed. This was something I looked into when I was adding support for
the keyboards. For yours it's a pretty trivial addition, but for the USB
variant you can't send the command in the middle of the USB interrupt
receiving the keypress, solving this seemed to require quite a lot of
boilerplate for what would have been pretty trivial in userland.
Of course, It's very easily possible that I missed something, or there's
a helper to do this sort of thing that now exists.
Cheers,
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