All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	balbi@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] usb: gadget: f_hid: Conduct proper refcounting on shared f_hidg pointer
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 08:54:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3dIXUmjTfJLpPe7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3ZlvyZoL+PzpbQX@rowland.harvard.edu>

On Thu, 17 Nov 2022, Alan Stern wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 01:46:26PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Nov 2022, Greg KH wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:08:13PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > +static inline bool f_hidg_is_open(struct f_hidg *hidg)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	return !!kref_read(&hidg->cdev.kobj.kref);
> > > > +}
> > > 
> > > Ick, sorry, no, that's not going to work and is not allowed at all.
> > > That's some major layering violations there, AND it can change after you
> > > get the value as well.
> > 
> > This cdev belongs solely to this driver.  Hence the *.*.* and not
> > *->*->*.  What is preventing us from reading our own data?  If we
> > cannot do this directly, can I create an API to do it 'officially'?
> > 
> > I do, however, appreciate that a little locking wouldn't go amiss.
> > 
> > If this solution is not acceptable either, then we're left up the
> > creak without a paddle.  The rules you've communicated are not
> > compatible with each other.
> > 
> > Rule 1: Only one item in a data structure can reference count.
> > 
> > Due to the embedded cdev struct, this rules out my first solution of
> > giving f_hidg its own kref so that it can conduct its own life-time
> > management.
> > 
> > A potential option to satisfy this rule would be to remove the cdev
> > attribute and create its data dynamically instead.  However, the
> > staticness of cdev is used to obtain f_hidg (with container_of()) in
> > the character device handling component, so it cannot be removed.
> 
> You have not understood this rule correctly.  Only one item in a data 
> structure can hold a reference count _for that structure_.  But several 
> items in a structure can hold reference counts for themselves.

Here was the review comment I was working to on this patch [0]:

 "While at first glance, it seems that f_hidg is not reference
  counted, it really is, with the embedded "struct cdev" a few lines
  above this.

  That is the reference count that should control the lifecycle of
  this object, not another reference here in the "outer layer"
  structure."

> So for example, you could put a kref in f_hidg which would hold the 
> reference count for the f_hidg structure, while at the same time 
> including an embedded cdev with its own reference counter.  The point is 
> that the refcount in the embedded cdev refers to the lifetime of the 
> cdev, not the lifetime of the f_hidg.

This was the approach in the original submission [1], which during
review I was told was unacceptable for the aforementioned reason.

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y1PnoMvDmZMqXScw@kroah.com/
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221017112737.230772-1-lee@kernel.org/

> To make this work properly, you have to do two additional things:
> 
> 	When the cdev's refcount is initialized, increment the kref
> 	in f_hidg.
> 
> 	When the cdev's refcount drops to 0, decrement the kref (and
> 	release f_hidg if the kref hits 0).

More than happy to revisit the first solution with Greg's blessing.

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-18  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-17 12:08 [PATCH 1/1] usb: gadget: f_hid: Conduct proper refcounting on shared f_hidg pointer Lee Jones
2022-11-17 12:50 ` Greg KH
2022-11-17 13:26   ` Lee Jones
2022-11-17 17:38     ` Greg KH
2022-11-17 12:50 ` Greg KH
2022-11-17 13:46   ` Lee Jones
2022-11-17 16:47     ` Alan Stern
2022-11-18  8:54       ` Lee Jones [this message]
2022-11-18 15:59         ` Alan Stern
2022-11-18 16:37           ` John Keeping
2022-11-18 21:07             ` Alan Stern
2022-11-20 17:22               ` John Keeping
2022-11-20 20:46                 ` Alan Stern
2022-11-21 12:30                   ` Lee Jones
2022-11-21 12:38                   ` John Keeping
2022-11-21 16:18                     ` Alan Stern
2022-11-21 18:54                       ` John Keeping
2022-11-21 19:17                         ` Alan Stern
2022-11-22 11:52                           ` John Keeping
2022-11-22  8:31                         ` Lee Jones
2022-11-22 11:55                           ` John Keeping
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-10-17 11:27 Lee Jones
2022-10-22 12:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-24  7:17   ` Lee Jones

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=Y3dIXUmjTfJLpPe7@google.com \
    --to=lee@kernel.org \
    --cc=balbi@kernel.org \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-usb@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=stern@rowland.harvard.edu \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.