From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to trap SMCCC sub-ranges
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 17:04:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3e7KqJKz6nHjFSu@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221118145637.GC4624@willie-the-truck>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 02:56:38PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 01:53:26AM +0000, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > As the SMCCC (and related specifications) march towards an
> > 'everything and the kitchen sink' interface for interacting with a
> > system, it is less likely that KVM will implement every supported
> > feature.
> >
> > Add a capability that allows userspace to trap hypercall ranges,
> > allowing the VMM to mix-and-match between calls handled in userspace vs.
> > KVM.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
> > ---
> > arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 5 ++++
> > arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h | 15 ++++++++++
> > arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 10 +++++++
> > arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c | 48 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 +
> > 5 files changed, 79 insertions(+)
>
> [...]
>
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > index 6f0b56e7f8c7..6e8a222fc295 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > @@ -100,6 +100,13 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_enable_cap(struct kvm *kvm,
> > r = 0;
> > set_bit(KVM_ARCH_FLAG_SYSTEM_SUSPEND_ENABLED, &kvm->arch.flags);
> > break;
> > + case KVM_CAP_ARM_USER_HYPERCALLS:
> > + if (cap->args[0] & ~KVM_ARM_USER_HYPERCALL_FLAGS)
> > + return -EINVAL;
>
> Why not use KVM_CAP_EXIT_HYPERCALL for this?
Err... I hilariously hijacked its UAPI for the exit but added a new cap
for it :)
I think the direction going forward will be to provide userspace with a
range-based filter such that (to a degree) we can arbitrarily forward
hypercalls to userspace, allowing for a mix-and-match approach.
> At some point during pKVM
> development, we used that to notify the VMM about memory being shared
> back from the guest but we eventually dropped it as the notification to
> userspace ended up not being needed:
>
> https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/dbd2861832dfc4c8a3103214b3c212ee7ace1c44%5E%21/
> https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/2a3afc6da99c0e0cb62be1687153ee572903aa80%5E%21/
>
> I'm not saying that what we did was necessarily better, but it seems a bit
> simpler and I figured it might be useful to point you to it.
Yeah, this is certainly a lot cleaner than what I've proposed here. And
frankly, for my immediate interest (forwarding vendor hypercalls to
userspace), this would fit the bill. OTOH, I was hoping that something
a bit more flexible could move the onus of implementing every darn spec
onto userspace (where possible).
I know you said pKVM has no need for userspace notifications at this
moment, but could user hypercalls be useful again going forward?
--
Thanks,
Oliver
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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to trap SMCCC sub-ranges
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 17:04:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3e7KqJKz6nHjFSu@google.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20221118170442.uT02Z5Ta73QICslsHbG2k0wpyHMqy2uvzdXb1SqK6K8@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221118145637.GC4624@willie-the-truck>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 02:56:38PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 01:53:26AM +0000, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > As the SMCCC (and related specifications) march towards an
> > 'everything and the kitchen sink' interface for interacting with a
> > system, it is less likely that KVM will implement every supported
> > feature.
> >
> > Add a capability that allows userspace to trap hypercall ranges,
> > allowing the VMM to mix-and-match between calls handled in userspace vs.
> > KVM.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
> > ---
> > arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 5 ++++
> > arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h | 15 ++++++++++
> > arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 10 +++++++
> > arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c | 48 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 +
> > 5 files changed, 79 insertions(+)
>
> [...]
>
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > index 6f0b56e7f8c7..6e8a222fc295 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > @@ -100,6 +100,13 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_enable_cap(struct kvm *kvm,
> > r = 0;
> > set_bit(KVM_ARCH_FLAG_SYSTEM_SUSPEND_ENABLED, &kvm->arch.flags);
> > break;
> > + case KVM_CAP_ARM_USER_HYPERCALLS:
> > + if (cap->args[0] & ~KVM_ARM_USER_HYPERCALL_FLAGS)
> > + return -EINVAL;
>
> Why not use KVM_CAP_EXIT_HYPERCALL for this?
Err... I hilariously hijacked its UAPI for the exit but added a new cap
for it :)
I think the direction going forward will be to provide userspace with a
range-based filter such that (to a degree) we can arbitrarily forward
hypercalls to userspace, allowing for a mix-and-match approach.
> At some point during pKVM
> development, we used that to notify the VMM about memory being shared
> back from the guest but we eventually dropped it as the notification to
> userspace ended up not being needed:
>
> https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/dbd2861832dfc4c8a3103214b3c212ee7ace1c44%5E%21/
> https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/2a3afc6da99c0e0cb62be1687153ee572903aa80%5E%21/
>
> I'm not saying that what we did was necessarily better, but it seems a bit
> simpler and I figured it might be useful to point you to it.
Yeah, this is certainly a lot cleaner than what I've proposed here. And
frankly, for my immediate interest (forwarding vendor hypercalls to
userspace), this would fit the bill. OTOH, I was hoping that something
a bit more flexible could move the onus of implementing every darn spec
onto userspace (where possible).
I know you said pKVM has no need for userspace notifications at this
moment, but could user hypercalls be useful again going forward?
--
Thanks,
Oliver
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to trap SMCCC sub-ranges
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 17:04:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3e7KqJKz6nHjFSu@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221118145637.GC4624@willie-the-truck>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 02:56:38PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 01:53:26AM +0000, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > As the SMCCC (and related specifications) march towards an
> > 'everything and the kitchen sink' interface for interacting with a
> > system, it is less likely that KVM will implement every supported
> > feature.
> >
> > Add a capability that allows userspace to trap hypercall ranges,
> > allowing the VMM to mix-and-match between calls handled in userspace vs.
> > KVM.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
> > ---
> > arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 5 ++++
> > arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h | 15 ++++++++++
> > arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 10 +++++++
> > arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c | 48 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 +
> > 5 files changed, 79 insertions(+)
>
> [...]
>
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > index 6f0b56e7f8c7..6e8a222fc295 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > @@ -100,6 +100,13 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_enable_cap(struct kvm *kvm,
> > r = 0;
> > set_bit(KVM_ARCH_FLAG_SYSTEM_SUSPEND_ENABLED, &kvm->arch.flags);
> > break;
> > + case KVM_CAP_ARM_USER_HYPERCALLS:
> > + if (cap->args[0] & ~KVM_ARM_USER_HYPERCALL_FLAGS)
> > + return -EINVAL;
>
> Why not use KVM_CAP_EXIT_HYPERCALL for this?
Err... I hilariously hijacked its UAPI for the exit but added a new cap
for it :)
I think the direction going forward will be to provide userspace with a
range-based filter such that (to a degree) we can arbitrarily forward
hypercalls to userspace, allowing for a mix-and-match approach.
> At some point during pKVM
> development, we used that to notify the VMM about memory being shared
> back from the guest but we eventually dropped it as the notification to
> userspace ended up not being needed:
>
> https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/dbd2861832dfc4c8a3103214b3c212ee7ace1c44%5E%21/
> https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/2a3afc6da99c0e0cb62be1687153ee572903aa80%5E%21/
>
> I'm not saying that what we did was necessarily better, but it seems a bit
> simpler and I figured it might be useful to point you to it.
Yeah, this is certainly a lot cleaner than what I've proposed here. And
frankly, for my immediate interest (forwarding vendor hypercalls to
userspace), this would fit the bill. OTOH, I was hoping that something
a bit more flexible could move the onus of implementing every darn spec
onto userspace (where possible).
I know you said pKVM has no need for userspace notifications at this
moment, but could user hypercalls be useful again going forward?
--
Thanks,
Oliver
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-18 17:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-10 1:53 [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to trap hypercall ranges Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] KVM: arm64: Use a generalized accessor for SMCCC args Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to trap SMCCC sub-ranges Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 12:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-10 12:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-10 12:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-10 21:13 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 21:13 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 21:13 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-11 8:26 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-11 8:26 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-11 8:26 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-11 23:39 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-11 23:39 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-11 23:39 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-14 11:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-14 11:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-14 11:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-18 14:56 ` Will Deacon
2022-11-18 14:56 ` Will Deacon
2022-11-18 14:56 ` Will Deacon
2022-11-18 17:04 ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2022-11-18 17:04 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-18 17:04 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] KVM: selftests: Test user hypercalls Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` Oliver Upton
2022-11-10 1:53 ` Oliver Upton
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