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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>,
	Sergey Shtylyov <s.shtylyov@omp.ru>, Wei Fang <wei.fang@nxp.com>,
	Shenwei Wang <shenwei.wang@nxp.com>,
	Clark Wang <xiaoning.wang@nxp.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Landen Chao <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
	DENG Qingfang <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next v2 11/12] net: dsa: Separate C22 and C45 MDIO bus transaction methods
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 16:48:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y7ROa8ql9R5SHPsK@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230103153134.utalc6kw3l34dp4s@skbuf>

> Since clause 45 PHYs are identified by the "ethernet-phy-ieee802.3-c45"
> compatible string (otherwise they are C22), then a PHY which is not
> described in the device tree can only be C22. So this is why
> ds->slave_mii_bus only deals with clause 22 methods, and the true reason
> behind the comment above.
> 
> But actually this premise is no longer true since Luiz' commit
> fe7324b93222 ("net: dsa: OF-ware slave_mii_bus"), which introduced the
> strange concept of an "OF-aware helper for internal PHYs which are not
> described in the device tree". After his patch, it is possible to have
> something like this:
> 
> 	ethernet-switch {
> 		ethernet-ports {
> 			port@1 {
> 				reg = <1>;
> 			};
> 		};
> 
> 		mdio {
> 			ethernet-phy@1 {
> 				compatible = "ethernet-phy-ieee802.3-c45"
> 				reg = <1>;
> 			};
> 		};
> 	};
> 
> As you can see, this is a clause 45 internal PHY which lacks a
> phy-handle, so its bus must be put in ds->slave_mii_bus in order for
> dsa_slave_phy_connect() to see it without that phy-handle (based on the
> port number matching with the PHY number). After Luiz' patch, this kind
> of device tree is possible, and it invalidates the assumption about
> ds->slave_mii_bus only driving C22 PHYs.

My memory is hazy, but i think at the time i wrote these patches,
there was no DSA driver which made use of ds->slave_mii_bus with
C45. So i took the short cut of only supporting C22.

Those DSA drivers which do support C45 all register their bus directly
with the MDIO core.

So Luiz patches may allow a C45 bus, but are there any drivers today
actually using it?

	 Andrew


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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>,
	Sergey Shtylyov <s.shtylyov@omp.ru>, Wei Fang <wei.fang@nxp.com>,
	Shenwei Wang <shenwei.wang@nxp.com>,
	Clark Wang <xiaoning.wang@nxp.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Landen Chao <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
	DENG Qingfang <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next v2 11/12] net: dsa: Separate C22 and C45 MDIO bus transaction methods
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 16:48:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y7ROa8ql9R5SHPsK@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230103153134.utalc6kw3l34dp4s@skbuf>

> Since clause 45 PHYs are identified by the "ethernet-phy-ieee802.3-c45"
> compatible string (otherwise they are C22), then a PHY which is not
> described in the device tree can only be C22. So this is why
> ds->slave_mii_bus only deals with clause 22 methods, and the true reason
> behind the comment above.
> 
> But actually this premise is no longer true since Luiz' commit
> fe7324b93222 ("net: dsa: OF-ware slave_mii_bus"), which introduced the
> strange concept of an "OF-aware helper for internal PHYs which are not
> described in the device tree". After his patch, it is possible to have
> something like this:
> 
> 	ethernet-switch {
> 		ethernet-ports {
> 			port@1 {
> 				reg = <1>;
> 			};
> 		};
> 
> 		mdio {
> 			ethernet-phy@1 {
> 				compatible = "ethernet-phy-ieee802.3-c45"
> 				reg = <1>;
> 			};
> 		};
> 	};
> 
> As you can see, this is a clause 45 internal PHY which lacks a
> phy-handle, so its bus must be put in ds->slave_mii_bus in order for
> dsa_slave_phy_connect() to see it without that phy-handle (based on the
> port number matching with the PHY number). After Luiz' patch, this kind
> of device tree is possible, and it invalidates the assumption about
> ds->slave_mii_bus only driving C22 PHYs.

My memory is hazy, but i think at the time i wrote these patches,
there was no DSA driver which made use of ds->slave_mii_bus with
C45. So i took the short cut of only supporting C22.

Those DSA drivers which do support C45 all register their bus directly
with the MDIO core.

So Luiz patches may allow a C45 bus, but are there any drivers today
actually using it?

	 Andrew

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-03 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-27 23:07 [PATCH RFC net-next v2 00/12] net: mdio: Start separating C22 and C45 Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 01/12] net: mdio: Add dedicated C45 API to MDIO bus drivers Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 02/12] net: pcs: pcs-xpcs: Use C45 MDIO API Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 13:28   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 13:28     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 03/12] net: mdio: mdiobus_register: update validation test Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 10:13   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-03 10:13     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-03 10:21     ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 10:21       ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 22:19       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-03 22:19         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-01-09 12:35         ` Michael Walle
2023-01-09 12:35           ` Michael Walle
2023-01-09 12:41           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-09 12:41             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 04/12] net: mdio: C22 is now optional, EOPNOTSUPP if not provided Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 05/12] net: mdio: Move mdiobus_c45_addr() next to users Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 06/12] net: mdio: mdio-bitbang: Separate C22 and C45 transactions Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-12-28  5:46   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-28  5:46   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-03 13:15   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 13:15     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 13:27     ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 13:27       ` Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 07/12] net: mdio: mvmdio: Convert XSMI bus to new API Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 08/12] net: ethernet: freescale: xgmac: Separate C22 and C45 transactions for xgmac Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 13:55   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 13:55     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 09/12] net: ethernet: freescale: fec: " Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-12-28  3:31   ` Wei Fang
2022-12-28  3:31     ` Wei Fang
2023-01-03 13:57   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 13:57     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 10/12] net: mdio: add mdiobus_c45_read/write_nested helpers Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 11/12] net: dsa: Separate C22 and C45 MDIO bus transaction methods Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 15:31   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 15:31     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 15:48     ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2023-01-03 15:48       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-01-03 15:56       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 15:56         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-16  7:51         ` Michael Walle
2023-01-16  7:51           ` Michael Walle
2023-01-16 19:28           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-16 19:28             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-27 23:07 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 12/12] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Separate C22 and C45 transactions Michael Walle
2022-12-27 23:07   ` Michael Walle
2023-01-03 16:20   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-03 16:20     ` Vladimir Oltean

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